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Re:YouTube tests blocking videos unless you disable ad blockers by Animats on Wednesday May 10, 2023 @10:13PM (#35896486)
> Peer to Peer for streaming doesn't seem a reasonable alternative at any scale, since most people own phones and then laptops, and much fewer desktops.

Peer to peer streaming of the PeerTube type seems to work reasonably well. Unlike Mastodon, etc., you don't have to sign up to receive content. You just click on a URL and it works. What it doesn't offer is discovery. Nobody will find your stuff on PeerTube. They might follow links there.

I put metaverse tech demos on PeerTube.[1] Works fine, few views. No ads.

[1] https://video.hardlimit.com/w/tp9mLAQoHaFR32YAVKVDrz

Re:YouTube tests blocking videos unless you disable ad blockers by crop_rotation on Wednesday May 10, 2023 @10:16PM (#35896496)
> doesn't seem a reasonable alternative at *any scale*

Sure it works fine at trivial scale. But can it work at 1% of YouTube scale? How many nodes are needed for that to happen? Is that number viable?

Re:YouTube tests blocking videos unless you disable ad blockers by Nifty3929 on Wednesday May 10, 2023 @10:18PM (#35896516)
No. 1% of YouTube is absolutely massive.
Re:YouTube tests blocking videos unless you disable ad blockers by Animats on Wednesday May 10, 2023 @11:34PM (#35897058)
The way PeerTube works, if you're watching it, you're also sharing it. So it should scale for popular videos.
Re:YouTube tests blocking videos unless you disable ad blockers by somethingreen on Thursday May 11, 2023 @06:24AM (#35900204)
From user side Youtube discovery is almost completely broken anyway. I ended up removing both home feed and recommended videos block via extension because they didn't contribute anything besides frustration and page load time for a couple years now.

I learn about creators elsewhere and then look up and subscribe to their channel on YT. This flow will work just fine with p2p as long as creators have a video list and an rss feed anywhere on the internet and a single functioning search engine continues to exist.