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Re:Ed Sheeran Demonstrates How Copyright Is Destroying Music... by jnsaff2 on Tuesday May 09, 2023 @01:25AM (#35870482)
Why would fish belong to the humanity? They are fish in their own right and belong to no one.
Re:Ed Sheeran Demonstrates How Copyright Is Destroying Music... by rizky05 on Tuesday May 09, 2023 @01:30AM (#35870521)
Believe or not, ownership system is only applied to humanity.
Re:Ed Sheeran Demonstrates How Copyright Is Destroying Music... by febusravenga on Tuesday May 09, 2023 @02:33AM (#35870858)
Search for territorial bevahiors in animals.
Re:Ed Sheeran Demonstrates How Copyright Is Destroying Music... by aksss on Tuesday May 09, 2023 @03:45AM (#35871317)
The cat pissing on my front porch post this evening would beg to differ.
Re:Ed Sheeran Demonstrates How Copyright Is Destroying Music... by jnsaff2 on Tuesday May 09, 2023 @04:01AM (#35871422)
The cat is the hoMEOWner.
Re:Ed Sheeran Demonstrates How Copyright Is Destroying Music... by apeescape on Tuesday May 09, 2023 @03:49AM (#35871340)
Well, there is Tree That Owns Itself, and Son of the Tree That Owns Itself. See the Wikipedia entry: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tree_That_Owns_Itself
Re:Ed Sheeran Demonstrates How Copyright Is Destroying Music... by mr_toad on Tuesday May 09, 2023 @04:05AM (#35871447)
Try taking dinner away from a bear and find out what it thinks about ownership.
Re:Ed Sheeran Demonstrates How Copyright Is Destroying Music... by chrisco255 on Tuesday May 09, 2023 @04:42AM (#35871645)
Well that's complicated by the fact that bears are often eating other animals, so I think their general philosophy is, if you're powerful enough to take it and keep it, it belongs to you.
Re:Ed Sheeran Demonstrates How Copyright Is Destroying Music... by Lionga on Tuesday May 09, 2023 @05:09AM (#35871772)
It is the same for humans, just that our rules and ways to determine who is more powerful are quite complicated.

But in the end the only thing that enforces any rule/ownership/law is violence, we just often do not have to go so far as we know it is not worth it.

Re:Ed Sheeran Demonstrates How Copyright Is Destroying Music... by robryk on Tuesday May 09, 2023 @08:17AM (#35873210)
One can also use ostracism to enforce a rule. I wouldn't classify that as violence.
Re:Ed Sheeran Demonstrates How Copyright Is Destroying Music... by zamnos on Tuesday May 09, 2023 @08:27AM (#35873339)
Eh? That's pretty much the epitome of social violence. The only step further would be exile.
Re:Ed Sheeran Demonstrates How Copyright Is Destroying Music... by thereddaikon on Tuesday May 09, 2023 @10:29AM (#35874852)
Most people only define violence as kinetic and physical. Mean words are not violence no matter how often sociologists say it.
Re:Ed Sheeran Demonstrates How Copyright Is Destroying Music... by salawat on Tuesday May 09, 2023 @12:03PM (#35876434)
>Watch yourself around the Jew.

>Don't get Gypped.

>A slave is worth 3/5 of a normal person.

There is a reason the pen is considered mightier than the sword.

A blade kills an enemy while it's wielder is alive, fit, and wielding it in anger.

The pen shapes the very thinking of entire generations. Anyone who says the space of violence is disjunct from the space of words is a downright fool. Hell, politics is just violence in it's Sunday/Friday/Saturday best.

Re:Ed Sheeran Demonstrates How Copyright Is Destroying Music... by thereddaikon on Thursday May 11, 2023 @02:21PM (#35906145)
None of those things are violence.
Re:Ed Sheeran Demonstrates How Copyright Is Destroying Music... by lynx23 on Tuesday May 09, 2023 @07:58AM (#35872993)
Humans think pretty much the same in this regard.
Re:Ed Sheeran Demonstrates How Copyright Is Destroying Music... by taneq on Tuesday May 09, 2023 @07:28PM (#35881696)
Sounds like it's simplified rather than complicated.
Re:Ed Sheeran Demonstrates How Copyright Is Destroying Music... by xrd on Tuesday May 09, 2023 @06:52AM (#35872418)
I'm pretty sure there is nothing in HN rules of engagement about bears, and even so, I'm very happy this comment made it in here. Thank you.
Re:Ed Sheeran Demonstrates How Copyright Is Destroying Music... by quijoteuniv on Tuesday May 09, 2023 @01:45AM (#35870601)
Well …while we figure that out we can make sure the fish does not belong to the guy with the biggest ship!
Re:Ed Sheeran Demonstrates How Copyright Is Destroying Music... by dingledork69 on Tuesday May 09, 2023 @07:32AM (#35872736)
s/belong/has as much right to as their fellow humans/
Re:Ed Sheeran Demonstrates How Copyright Is Destroying Music... by elzbardico on Tuesday May 09, 2023 @08:59AM (#35873680)
Because we are the apex predators on this planet
Re:Ed Sheeran Demonstrates How Copyright Is Destroying Music... by neuralRiot on Tuesday May 09, 2023 @04:49PM (#35880186)
We are just pathetic as a wild animal, and don’t come with the “our brain is our weapon” because 80% (yes i made that number) of the humans cannot even start a fire on the wild let alone build a shelter, pick food that won’t poison them, fabricate tools and weapons out of the environment.
Re:Ed Sheeran Demonstrates How Copyright Is Destroying Music... by elzbardico on Tuesday May 09, 2023 @08:40PM (#35882217)
And yet, you will go sleep tonight pretty sure that the only other animal that could possibly get into your home and kill you is another human. Most humans live their whole lives without having felt like being the prey not even once in their lives.

As individuals, most of us are not that impressive, or as you say, we are downright pathetic. But our power is in our societal organization, and our inherited culture.