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Re:Next Computers by pjmlp on Monday May 08, 2023 @04:18PM (#35866515)
It wasn't because Jobs was such a great UNIX fan, rather as must have for the Workstation market, that NeXT wanted a piece of.

"NeXT meeting strategy"

https://youtu.be/KRBIH0CA7ZU

Or for a bigger overview,

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34449912

However you're right, it is one of the best mixtures from both worlds.

Xerox PARC did port their environments into UNIX, Mesa/Cedar, Interlisp and Smalltalk, but it was already too late to make a difference.

Re:Next Computers by WillAdams on Monday May 08, 2023 @09:06PM (#35869041)
The really amazing thing was how after SJ returned to Apple, for a couple of years, the Apple Dev Keynotes were just re-hashing of previous NeXT keynote addresses.

It still kills me that Adobe reneged on their promise of a free Display PostScript license, thus killing Rhapsody and "Yellow Box" for Windows (and it's still hilarious to me that that colour was named for Bill Gate's rude response when asked if Microsoft would develop software for NeXT, "Develop for it? I'll p** on it."

Re:Next Computers by pjmlp on Tuesday May 09, 2023 @01:39AM (#35870575)
Adobe was in a similar place, Sean Parent from C++ fame had a very important role to change that, and bring Photoshop into OS X.

Check his interview on "ADSP: The Podcast",

https://adspthepodcast.com/2021/05/21/Episode-26.html

https://adspthepodcast.com/2021/05/28/Episode-27.html

https://adspthepodcast.com/2021/06/04/Episode-28.html

As for Rhapsody and "Yellow Box" for Windows dying, not sure if it would make a difference, OpenSTEP also did not work out that well, not even for Sun, other than being an influence to Java and Java EE (originally an Objective- C framework).

By the way, my graduation thesis was porting an OpenGL based particle engine from Objective-C/NeXTSTEP into C++/Windows 95, because the university department was getting rid of their Cubes, at this time there were no hopes for NeXT.

Re:Next Computers by WillAdams on Tuesday May 09, 2023 @03:49PM (#35879513)
Yes, bit there could have been new life if all the NeXT devs had gotten their promised entrée into the Windows market as scheduled. Anderson Financial Services in particular were looking forward to a big payout for selling PasteUp.app license.

The notable NeXT code considerations at Adobe are:

- they lost the source code to Glenn Reid's nifty "TouchType.app" - they couldn't be bothered to revive the NeXT source code for Altsys Virtuoso which Macromedia Freehand was based on