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Re:Back on Linux (after one year of Apple and OS X) by semanticist on Monday February 13, 2012 @07:58AM (#3585379)
Because Apple don't provide these package management tools, volunteering third-parties do.

Apple are never going to provide Linux-style package management tools because the market for them is minuscule compared to Apple's real market: normal people. For normal people, there's the App Store.

Re:Back on Linux (after one year of Apple and OS X) by ajross on Monday February 13, 2012 @11:31AM (#3586169)
Developers aren't "normal people" then? If that's seriously the attitude Apple takes towards its developer community ("no, we won't give you the software you need, get it from the crappy community projects") then why do you put up with it?

It seems like the OP's point is pretty valid to me. I use an OS that gives me what I need to do my job.

Re:Back on Linux (after one year of Apple and OS X) by geoffpado on Monday February 13, 2012 @04:55PM (#3587499)
> Developers aren't "normal people" then?

No. They aren't. Developers have needs far greater than that of your average everyday user. Apple sells a machine that is the best possible for the greatest number of users, and doesn't really cater to niche markets. I don't get what's surprising about this.

Re:Back on Linux (after one year of Apple and OS X) by 2muchcoffeeman on Monday February 13, 2012 @09:14PM (#3588316)
Because even developers do "normal people" things. There are a lot of trade offs, but in my experience Apple provides the best middle-of-the-road machines.

Linux and Windows feel like they exist on opposite ends of the spectrum.

Re:Back on Linux (after one year of Apple and OS X) by jonhohle on Monday February 13, 2012 @10:53AM (#3586008)
It may not have started out that way (but it may have, I'm not sure), but MacPorts is an Apple hosted project: http://www.macosforge.org/

What they don't host is the source or compiled versions of any of the packages in the MacPorts repository - potentially for the same reason they include no GPLv3 software in their OS.

Re:Back on Linux (after one year of Apple and OS X) by rbanffy on Monday February 13, 2012 @01:41PM (#3586778)
It would be perfectly safe for Apple to offer the resources required by the MacPorts project to function adequately.
Re:Back on Linux (after one year of Apple and OS X) by paxswill on Monday February 13, 2012 @02:52PM (#3587084)
In some cases, they do. This is especially apparent if you're still using MacPort with PPC, as most of the packages it pulls down are form the MacPorts servers.
Re:Back on Linux (after one year of Apple and OS X) by dlikhten on Monday February 13, 2012 @08:28AM (#3585455)
while I agree, the point is moot as this talks about developers. So yes, apple did not make a package management tool. That pisses developers off. Makes no difference because you suck it up if you want to develop for mac/ios.

Its kind of like developing on windows, for windows, gota do what u gotta do.