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Re:EU sends Apple stark warning over USB-C charging on new i... by AuryGlenz on Sunday May 07, 2023 @11:57AM (#35852761)
The EU absolutely did not force micro-usb. It was a strongly worded suggestion at a time when it seems we were already moving that way.
Re:EU sends Apple stark warning over USB-C charging on new i... by fbdab103 on Sunday May 07, 2023 @12:37PM (#35853154)
And everyone but Apple embraced the original specification[0]. Given Apple's previous moves, a heavier hand seems warranted.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_external_power_supply

Re:EU sends Apple stark warning over USB-C charging on new i... by dghlsakjg on Sunday May 07, 2023 @02:35PM (#35854222)
To be fair to Apple, micro-USB was an inferior standard to lightning.

Lightning is a more durable design (in terms of plug/unplug cycles), had higher power capacity originally, and was reversible.

Re:EU sends Apple stark warning over USB-C charging on new i... by zamnos on Monday May 08, 2023 @03:00AM (#35858878)
USB-C is also inferior to lightning for laptops, but here we are. It's got this stupid internal tongue on the recepticals that will break if you try and clean the port with an office standard paperclip with any real force.

Hope you don't do anything involving tiny particles like sand or wood or cloth (like is found inside of pocket in the form of lint)!

Re:EU sends Apple stark warning over USB-C charging on new i... by crote on Monday May 08, 2023 @03:42AM (#35859087)
That "stupid internal tongue" is why USB-C can now carry 160 Gbps, while Lightning can only do 0.45 Gbps. Yes, it kinda sucks for cleaning, but it makes it future-proof.
Re:EU sends Apple stark warning over USB-C charging on new i... by Dylan16807 on Monday May 08, 2023 @05:41PM (#35867376)
Lightning is that limited because Apple chooses for it to be, not because of the port. They made a double-sided variant with high speed data before.

The port can't directly drive all the weird miscellaneous pins that USB-C because it only has 16 pins, but it does have four high speed lanes, the same as USB-C. On a physical level it can reach the same speeds.

Re:EU sends Apple stark warning over USB-C charging on new i... by Nullabillity on Sunday May 07, 2023 @01:20PM (#35853548)
"Use micro-usb or we will make you use it".
Re:EU sends Apple stark warning over USB-C charging on new i... by xorcist on Sunday May 07, 2023 @04:39PM (#35855420)
They absolutely did. "Sort it out or we will make a law" is what enforcement looks like.

Before that, everyone had their own variant of the barrel plug. A few crappy low price vendors just used micro usb instead, since they couldn't possibly have a proprietary moat to speak of anyway.

It's one of the examples where consumer legislation worked.

Re:EU sends Apple stark warning over USB-C charging on new i... by robertlagrant on Sunday May 07, 2023 @04:41PM (#35855437)
That wasn't legislation or enforcement.
Re:EU sends Apple stark warning over USB-C charging on new i... by Symbiote on Sunday May 07, 2023 @05:59PM (#35856026)
That is the European way. Ask nicely first, push a little harder, threaten, then finally pass a law if the result hasn't been achieved.

You will note everyone except Apple did what the EU wanted early in this process.

Re:EU sends Apple stark warning over USB-C charging on new i... by robertlagrant on Monday May 08, 2023 @02:43AM (#35858814)
I do note that. I'm not sure how that relates, though.