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Re:The Businessman and the Fisherman by dbgev on Saturday May 06, 2023 @11:56PM (#35847785)
A few years later, the fisherman gets an expensive, debilitating disease and dies penniless and destitute and alone. But at least he had fun before that.
Re:The Businessman and the Fisherman by FourthProtocol on Sunday May 07, 2023 @12:26AM (#35847924)
Well, apparently the story was conceived by a German, in which case the social system would catch him, provide the health care he needs, and when recovered he'd be back on that beach...
Re:The Businessman and the Fisherman by bestouff on Sunday May 07, 2023 @12:51AM (#35848043)
Anywhere in Europe actually.
Re:The Businessman and the Fisherman by rolisz on Sunday May 07, 2023 @08:54AM (#35850995)
Europe is big, made of many different countries, with very different policies on public health care and very different standards for that public health care. For example, in Romania (part of the EU!), the big cities usually have good hospitals, but if you're in villages or smaller cities, good luck! Also, to be able to benefit from free public health care, there's a list of conditions you have to meet, it's not available by default to anyone. The requirements are quite reasonable (be employed, be on maternity leave, be in school, etc.), But there are people who are not covered.
Re:The Businessman and the Fisherman by kortilla on Sunday May 07, 2023 @01:16AM (#35848148)
But who pays for these social services to pay the doctors that heal him?
Re:The Businessman and the Fisherman by klipt on Sunday May 07, 2023 @02:16AM (#35848412)
Immigrants waiting to get citizenship so they can enjoy the same safety net.
Re:The Businessman and the Fisherman by nicbou on Sunday May 07, 2023 @04:29AM (#35849180)
Residents also enjoy the same safety net. German social benefits do no distinguish on status. The only exception is if your residence permit is tied to your employment, in which case it’s a little more complicated, but only due to the horribly slow immigration office.
Re:The Businessman and the Fisherman by raincole on Sunday May 07, 2023 @07:22AM (#35850256)
It sounds a lot like a ponzi, doesn't it?
Re:The Businessman and the Fisherman by petre on Sunday May 07, 2023 @01:23AM (#35848184)
It's also quite improbable when one lives stress free. Maybe if one engages in rock fishing or cliff jigging and slips off a wet rock.

I've taken up fishing myself last year, after a Greek taught me how they do sport fishing. Shore spinning can be very relaxing and one can enjoy water sports at the sea even in a Bf 4 breeze or during swell conditions when the red flag is up.

https://youtu.be/ayZ-x8CWH4k

Re:The Businessman and the Fisherman by nickpp on Sunday May 07, 2023 @12:07PM (#35852872)
My grandfather was a fisherman. Had a massive heart attack that killed him at 60. I barely met him. Years of hard work, exposure to the elements, the ever-present stress of the next catch, family worries and a general life of subsistence were not kind to him.

He was "lucky" he died too, if he survived he would've faced a disabled life in a place with no health care or general services beyond basic. That was the life on the remote seaside.

His wife and kids though surely would have liked to be left with some more than the fishing tools, boat and shack...

Re:The Businessman and the Fisherman by petre on Monday May 08, 2023 @01:21AM (#35858393)
You realise I wasn't talking about commercial or subsistence fishing.
Re:The Businessman and the Fisherman by endisneigh on Sunday May 07, 2023 @12:40AM (#35847989)
Wouldn’t the same thing happen even if he were rich?
Re:The Businessman and the Fisherman by kortilla on Sunday May 07, 2023 @01:17AM (#35848152)
No, a triple bypass is cheap if you’re rich.
Re:The Businessman and the Fisherman by eye-robot on Sunday May 07, 2023 @09:29AM (#35851329)
Wouldn't need one... He obviously eats a lot of fish.
Re:The Businessman and the Fisherman by rcme on Sunday May 07, 2023 @12:28AM (#35847939)
He doesn’t die alone. His children and wife watch him die. Without him, they must toil endlessly to survive.
Re:The Businessman and the Fisherman by PaulDavisThe1st on Sunday May 07, 2023 @01:03AM (#35848094)
His son already got into YC2024, via his participation in a worker-owned tech coop that is bringing big data, AI and crowd sourcing to the fishing business.

His wife, who in the 1800s, would never have been recognized for her work, is today known as one of her country's greatest contemporary sculptors, and has exhibited at Tate Modern, the Guggenheim and has a show next month in Rio.

The fisherman used to talk with pride about his family's accomplishments when sipping retsina with his friends on the dock.

Re:The Businessman and the Fisherman by s1mplicissimus on Sunday May 07, 2023 @09:54AM (#35851539)
i wonder how the fisherman got to know and marry an internationally successful artist and what are the odds of that happening...
Re:The Businessman and the Fisherman by neilknowsbest on Sunday May 07, 2023 @10:24AM (#35851845)
He's a retired businessman. They met, by chance, years ago when he was in South Korea to close the construction contract for his 50-boat fishing fleet with Hyundai.
Re:The Businessman and the Fisherman by windowsrookie on Sunday May 07, 2023 @12:45AM (#35848017)
So he still lived a happy an fulfilling life doing exactly what he wanted. Sounds good to me.
Re:The Businessman and the Fisherman by its_bbq on Sunday May 07, 2023 @09:24AM (#35851284)
Better to enjoy your life before your debilitating disease than to be miserable up until your debilitating disease. The fisherman was going to die anyways.
Re:The Businessman and the Fisherman by BeFlatXIII on Sunday May 07, 2023 @08:08PM (#35856800)
We are all racing to the same destination.
Re:The Businessman and the Fisherman by claudiulodro on Sunday May 07, 2023 @12:13PM (#35852930)
I'd wager there are more ways to die in modern society than in the fisherman's village. If we're speculating, a few years later the businessman gets hit by a truck crossing the street, or addicted to opiates, or has a heart attack from his sedentary lifestyle. And he doesn't even seem to have had much fun before that!
Re:The Businessman and the Fisherman by throwuwu on Sunday May 07, 2023 @01:11PM (#35853476)
And 30 years later the businessman dies of old age, alone in a fancy care home with only his nurse there to watch him pass and his last words are “if only I had listened to the fisherman”
Re:The Businessman and the Fisherman by ericmcer on Sunday May 07, 2023 @02:09PM (#35853983)
Yeah healthcare is the one thing I want financial security for. Big house, nice car, expensive food is all whatever, but I have some weird paranoia that in the next 30-40 years some longevity treatment will start rolling out or I will develop some condition that I will be priced out of.