Googlers angry about CEO’s $226M pay after cuts in perks and 12,000 layoffs

Re:Googlers angry about CEO’s $226M pay after cuts in perks ... by airstrike on Thursday May 04, 2023 @06:07PM (#35822794)

People generally get paid the amount that it costs to find someone else to do their job¹

It is very easy to find someone else to be a "rater". Certainly easier than it is to find another software engineer

You can argue SWE wages are inflated but comparing them to someone testing whether YouTube search returns the right results is inaccurate and feels disingenuous

"Fairness" is a vague concept which nobody can agree on. It's definitely not as easily observable as, say, the marginal cost of replacing a worker

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1. This also happens to be a helpful framework for establishing "value", beyond the context of labor. For instance: how much is a company worth? The amount it would cost to replace them if they were taken out of the picture

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Re:Googlers angry about CEO’s $226M pay after cuts in perks ... by segasaturn on Thursday May 04, 2023 @06:21PM (#35822893)

By that logic, Sundar's pay is completely justified, as well as the pay cuts for Software Engineers, as more and more people become software engineers every day and available pool of workers continues to increase.

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Re:Googlers angry about CEO’s $226M pay after cuts in perks ... by ceejayoz on Thursday May 04, 2023 @06:26PM (#35822934)

You don’t think they could find a competent CEO for, say, $100M?

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Re:Googlers angry about CEO’s $226M pay after cuts in perks ... by segasaturn on Thursday May 04, 2023 @06:29PM (#35822968)

You don't think you could find a competent software engineer for $80k?

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Re:Googlers angry about CEO’s $226M pay after cuts in perks ... by ceejayoz on Thursday May 04, 2023 @06:35PM (#35823032)

Sure can.

A race to the bottom for engineers at the same time there’s ever-increasing CEO pay is gross. That’s the point.

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Re:Googlers angry about CEO’s $226M pay after cuts in perks ... by unpopular42 on Thursday May 04, 2023 @07:03PM (#35823269)

No chance if the competitor next door pays $300k

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Re:Googlers angry about CEO’s $226M pay after cuts in perks ... by eftychis on Thursday May 04, 2023 @11:24PM (#35824871)

Depending on the field: No. Depends also on the definition of "competent."

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Re:Googlers angry about CEO’s $226M pay after cuts in perks ... by eftychis on Thursday May 04, 2023 @11:26PM (#35824878)

Well the whole argument here by a big section of comments -- if not the majority -- including Googlers is "they haven't found one in Sundar."

I think finding a great CEO for the particular strategy and company is harder than we all think. (Yes I know the fault of the previous sentence -- it was on purpose.)

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Re:Googlers angry about CEO’s $226M pay after cuts in perks ... by PeterisP on Friday May 05, 2023 @06:41AM (#35827513)

They probably could find "a competent CEO", but that's not the bar, and it doesn't make sense to do so, because of the oversized impact and risks. If you're 99% certain that a person is as competent as the current CEO and 1% they're a dud like Carly Fiorina, then saving a measly $100m is not worth the enormous risk. And if you've got a candidate that makes you certain that they're even slightly more competent than Pichai, then it would be worth paying an extra $100m to get them.

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Re:Googlers angry about CEO’s $226M pay after cuts in perks ... by ceejayoz on Friday May 05, 2023 @07:41AM (#35827977)

You can't be certain of any of this, though, without a time machine to do some A/B testing.

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Re:Googlers angry about CEO’s $226M pay after cuts in perks ... by junipertea on Thursday May 04, 2023 @06:33PM (#35823016)

Well, yeah. Experience with multibillion companies is lottery, knowing software a commodity.

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