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Re:Googlers angry about CEO’s $226M pay after cuts in perks ... by justrealist on Thursday May 04, 2023 @05:59PM (#35822689)
Not sure I'm following. They aren't getting new equity grants, they're de-facto out of the picture and just riding the valuation. They have 51% voting power but it's not obvious they are actively making decisions, rather than just holding onto power in just-in-case.

Sundar is getting new equity grants based on his "performance". That's not the same.

Re:Googlers angry about CEO’s $226M pay after cuts in perks ... by gregdoesit on Thursday May 04, 2023 @06:03PM (#35822743)
Larry and Sergey have 51% voting power. They are the ones deciding how much Sundar is paid. Put it the other way: if they don’t want to pay him that much: they have the power to do so.

As the ultimate owners of the company by shareholder votes, they approved the compensation of Sundar, and are the decision makers.

Re:Googlers angry about CEO’s $226M pay after cuts in perks ... by fsckboy on Thursday May 04, 2023 @07:44PM (#35823603)
no, they need to compete with other companies for the talent pool of CEOs. There is a market for such leaders, and if they drop the pay too low they will not get the same quality CEO, and they won't incentivize the CEO they have to the same extent.
Re:Googlers angry about CEO’s $226M pay after cuts in perks ... by hnfong on Friday May 05, 2023 @11:14AM (#35830298)
> they will not get the same quality CEO

Hah!

Re:Googlers angry about CEO’s $226M pay after cuts in perks ... by fshbbdssbbgdd on Thursday May 04, 2023 @06:03PM (#35822741)
Larry and Sergey hired Sundar to do a job (make money for shareholders aka Larry and Sergey). If Sundar doesn’t want to do that job anymore they’ll find someone else to do it better.

If I’m ignoring morality and just pretending I own the company and want to be richer, my opinion would be: if I think there is someone out there who will do a better job than my CEO and they are available, hire them no matter how much it costs. Whatever I’m paying them is peanuts compared to their impact on the company’s market cap. Nowhere in my option space is “keep the same sub-par CEO but pay them less”, that’s penny-wise and pound-foolish thinking.

Re:Googlers angry about CEO’s $226M pay after cuts in perks ... by axlee on Thursday May 04, 2023 @07:05PM (#35823285)
Do you truly think there is no one on earth who could do a better job than Pinchai for, let's say, $80M a year? $40M a year? $30M a year? $10M a year? Why is there downward pressure on wages for everyone except for this particular position?
Re:Googlers angry about CEO’s $226M pay after cuts in perks ... by hgsgm on Thursday May 04, 2023 @07:30PM (#35823485)
His pay is huge, but not huge when spread across 12K people. You couldn't keep them employed on $250M/3yrs
Re:Googlers angry about CEO’s $226M pay after cuts in perks ... by axlee on Thursday May 04, 2023 @07:36PM (#35823542)
I don't really understand the point you are trying to make.
Re:Googlers angry about CEO’s $226M pay after cuts in perks ... by AgentOrange1234 on Thursday May 04, 2023 @07:46PM (#35823619)
Perhaps not all of them, but you could certainly choose to keep some.

On the other hand, perhaps you could. Just dividing the numbers out doesn’t account for whatever value they’re producing.

Re:Googlers angry about CEO’s $226M pay after cuts in perks ... by fshbbdssbbgdd on Thursday May 04, 2023 @07:59PM (#35823726)
If that person who can do a better job exists and can be identified, we should hire them and not waste time worrying about how much they are paid. It’s more important somebody else doesn’t hire them first.

Btw if you have some repeatable mechanism for proving the suitability of CEO candidates, maybe you should be doing executive recruiting for a liking.

Re:Googlers angry about CEO’s $226M pay after cuts in perks ... by 1024core on Thursday May 04, 2023 @08:18PM (#35823857)
On what basis are people saying that he's responsible for the company's increase in valuation over the past 8 years? For all we know he's just sitting in his office twiddling his thumbs.
Re:Googlers angry about CEO’s $226M pay after cuts in perks ... by fshbbdssbbgdd on Thursday May 04, 2023 @08:22PM (#35823891)
If I own Google, I’m not willing to run the experiment of hiring a thumb-twiddler to run my trillion-dollar company to save a few hundred million dollars. I’m willing to pay an extra hundred million dollars to hire someone who appears to be 1% less likely to be a thumb-twiddler, even though I don’t have an oracle that can measure candidates perfectly.

In reality, there are few people who have had to opportunity to show their ability to run Google. You have the small set of people who ran tech companies as big as Google, or who ran big parts of Google. Those people are in high demand, which is why hundreds of millions of dollars is the market rate for the most appealing of the bunch.

Re:Googlers angry about CEO’s $226M pay after cuts in perks ... by fatherzine on Thursday May 04, 2023 @10:26PM (#35824596)
Risk? He's a known quantity. There may be 1000 guys more capable than Pichai. Alas, there are at least two thorny questions:

* How do you find one of these guys in the haystack with any degree of confidence?

* How much time would one of them need to build a professional network at the same level as Pichai?

FWIW, I do find these compensation packages obscene. Just working out same thinly disguised math.

Re:Googlers angry about CEO’s $226M pay after cuts in perks ... by doctor_eval on Thursday May 04, 2023 @06:37PM (#35823048)
Never underestimate the power of the veto. Those who hold it, certainly don’t.
Re:Googlers angry about CEO’s $226M pay after cuts in perks ... by roflyear on Thursday May 04, 2023 @06:40PM (#35823066)
CEO doesn't get a raise without it being okay with shareholders