GPT 4 really shows how absolutely terrible regular web search is at finding anything these days. Another complete embarrassment for Google.

Often times it can just recite things from memory that Google can't even properly link to, and they've got a proper index to work from for fucks sake.

The last time I tried to find a plumber in my local area through google I realized that the first three pages of results contained zero actual results. It was a mix of ads and seo spam from scammers. I ended up going to ddg and while there was plenty of seo spam there too, I found several good results on the first two pages.

Google has the technology and talent to relaunch themselves in a leadership position, but the current executive team doesn’t seem to have what it takes. They’re custodians / accountants, running the company a bit like Microsoft in the Ballmer era. What google needs to do now is leap ahead, and I don’t see it happening without a leadership change.

Amen. I have basically stopped using Google at this point because, when I do, the results are all garbage. I ask GPT-4 the same questions and get reliable mostly accurate answers. You do have to be cautious of lies/hallucinations but realistically most of Google's results now adays are sales pages masked as helpful articles that are mostly full of crap anyway.

I was dying on the GPT-4 API waitlist too. I built a proof-of-concept with GPT-3.5, got some ada embeddings, played around with some common patterns for a couple of weeks, spent less than $20. I then applied to the waitlist again with a few short sentences about what I'd done, how GPT-4 would make it better, and how it would enable something new and valuable for a particular market. Approved that day.

It's not exactly a shortcut, and maybe it was just luck, but I suspect the key is just to start building with what you have and show a trajectory. The best part is that coding with ChatGPT-4 as a "colleague" has made the whole thing super fun.

Sadly I did the same, but am still waitlisted. I do enjoy GPT-4 as a colleague though.

Wow, two days after I posted this I got off the waitlist. :D

I just got access. If you want, you can email me some prompts to test, ^ @gmail.

Thanks you for the offer, but I’m extremely conscious of avoiding a direct link from my comments here to who I am.

Maybe it’s a bit too paranoid, I don’t know, but I’ve also been open here about my workplace experiences, if someone who knew my irl connection to them and decided to comb through my comments, in a way that my HR dept among others might not quite appreciate. Maybe I should setup a separate HN account connected to me Professionally for that sort of thing.

Also my use case for GPT-4 is data analysis. Using the paid “plus” version shows a lot of promise for quickly bootstrapping data exploration and consumption as a jumping off point for more detailed digging. Via the chat interface it can ingest very small aggregate datasets and spit out observations that only myself and my boss have the domain name expertise to produce in my organization. but the Chat interface is highly limited and often truncates even small (faked but plausible) data, so I really want API access, because it involves sensitive info I couldn’t put into the chat site or responsibly share with someone outside my org.

But really, thanks for the offer. What are you working on with it?