> Perhaps you don't know how to pick phones? My last Android device lasted 4 years (in fact it is still going strong after I installed DivestOS, became my backup phone), and my new device will probably last a long time too.

They might just replace their phone a lot. Some people do that.

Actually, despite the common wisdom that Apple users are always getting the latest thing and just can't wait to give Apple more money at every opportunity, every person I've known who replaced their phone about annually to chase whatever the just-released flagship phone was so they can always have the shiniest thing, has been an Android user. Though, to be fair, I've also known plenty of Android users who don't do that. I've just not yet seen an Apple user behave that way (but I'm sure some do). I think this has something to do with Android fans having more overlap with computer hardware enthusiasts in general, than Apple fans do.

I've also known a few Android users who get a new phone every year because they think the next $200 phone won't suck just as much as the last one did. And that, sure, is kinda their own fault.

> They might just replace their phone a lot. Some people do that.

I actually don't like to replace my phone a lot. The issue was, with each Android phone, despite great recommendations from others and lots of research I was left wanting. And after being disappointed by each Android phone, another Android expert would tell me that some other newly released hardware would blow me away. I was tricked by this again and again and again. Until eventually releasing I would just be so much happier on iPhone. I was.

Heh—as an ex-Android user who owned a couple of the "good" ones, I definitely get where you're coming from. I'd take a $400 iPhone over any Android phone, no matter how nice, no hesitation, even disregarding existing purchases and such (I don't have a ton of those, anyway)

I know a lot of people that get the latest iphone every year but I think the difference is they don’t advertise it or mention it the way a lot of the android folks do. Perhaps due to the hardware enthusiast overlap you mentioned.

Might be luck of the draw, but my experience with Android has been similar to OP. Each of my (at the time top of the line) Samsung phones stopped working due to various reasons after a time period ranging from just under an year, to a couple of years.

In comparison, my secondhand iPhone 3G worked for several years—until I left it in a plane by mistake. My iPhone 7plus I used for ~7 years; in fact I still use it, along with my new iPhone 13.

You used Samsung products, that was your problem. Every Samsung I've had or used has been absolute trash

So the largest Android phone manufacturer is “trash”? Who do you recommend?

Apple response incoming.

All phones are trash except my unbranded Huawei clone running a custom version of Android I built myself. It's been totally problem-free since I got it 8 days ago (the one before it was also trash).

OnePlus. My 6T still works perfectly. No issues after 4 years of use, even the battery still lasts a good time. Sometime after they dropped support (since it's an old model), I installed DivestOS and it still works great, updates and all. Became my backup phone. I got myself a Nord2T now, and I like it a lot, I have the impression it will last forever too.

I had a Samsung in the past, but I had some issues with it.

Btw, I never buy top of the line phones.

I think it's pretty hard to argue that the undefeatable dedicated Bixby button was a good idea, or that Galaxy Folds are awesome. They release basically the same thing constantly to give people FOMO on upgrades because the new Galaxy+ S MegaUltraGigaSuper GigaProPixel 97 with 18 cameras is out. They fake detail on the moon to impress the non-tech-savvy who don't understand how it's just a trick. They're also run by a family that is above the law in Korea and has a large influence on the government because they're such a large part of the economy. Their appliances are also trash quality and not made to be repaired, there have been class action lawsuits about this.

My iPhone does the same with Siri as far as power button.

I had a good several year run with the LG G6. Google Maps navigation got too bogged down to be usable, though. That's more Google's fault than LG. Now I'm on a Pixel 6 and it's mostly non-offensive. The fingerprint reader is a bit unreliable, and the lack of a headphone jack is annoying. Other than that, it is responsive and the UI stays out of my way.

Just because a manufacturer makes a lot of things doesn't make them good, their software is some of the worst and most bloated I've ever experienced

Google pixel running grapheneos

Also no, I have never owned an apple device and I never will

My his and hers pair of S5s lasted 6 years despite a fun competitive game we would play where we would try to smack the phone out of others hand which often sent it flying comedically through the air. (good training for phone theives we both have iron grips of our phones now)

You know you can get an Iphone SE for 150 dollars, right?

What and expensive paperweight.

It is $430 on Apple's website:

https://www.apple.com/shop/buy-iphone/iphone-se/4.7-inch-dis...

> Perhaps you don't know how to pick phones?

Right. They’re doing it wrong?

Did it get operating system and security updates for four years?

They recently dropped support, so it doesn't get updates anymore. But I could install DivestOS, it works great actually.

More than I can say about the old iPad I have here, that became essentially a paperweight. First and last shit I bought from Apple.

> Perhaps you don't know how to pick phones

That's part of the problem with Android...