Re:Tools for rapid prototyping: a webapp in 1 week
by inklesspen on Saturday November 08, 2008 @09:32PM
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Just a list of frameworks. Yeah, I know jQuery is rad, but I was hoping to see some actual advice on the prototyping process, as opposed to the coding process.
Re:Tools for rapid prototyping: a webapp in 1 week
by jhancock on Sunday November 09, 2008 @04:27AM
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for the merb grown-ups, merb 1.0 now has a well factored authentication framework. The docs/howtos are still a little rough, but I've just gone through migrating my existing app which had mature hand-rolled User model, session management, and registration process. With the new merb auth code, I've just dropped quite a bit of code.
also +1 for Blueprint CSS as well. This finally got me out of CSS hell.
Re:Tools for rapid prototyping: a webapp in 1 week
by lliiffee on Sunday November 09, 2008 @10:24AM
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I really shouldn't nitpick-- particularly on something thrown together in a week by one person-- but I can't resist: I bet you'd double the fraction of people looking at the site who actually build a list if it lets you start building a list before signing up. After I've built one you can remind me that I should sign up if I want to keep it.
Its much better to let people get their feet wet with out jumping through the hoop of a sign-up.
Re:Tools for rapid prototyping: a webapp in 1 week
by tdavis on Saturday November 08, 2008 @10:50PM
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As cool and useful as Pinax is, calling it "well documented" isn't entirely accurate considering the fact that there is barely any documentation to speak of.
Re:Tools for rapid prototyping: a webapp in 1 week
by truebosko on Sunday November 09, 2008 @08:12AM
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What's everyones take on using something like Pinax where a lot of things are done and bundled up for you?
I've never been a huge fan of this approach. I like Django because it removes some of the annoying parts of creating a web app, but I don't like when the user registration, commenting, profiles, avatars, and more site-specific functionality like "groups/message boards" are pre-built for me
Re:Tools for rapid prototyping: a webapp in 1 week
by durdn on Sunday November 09, 2008 @10:30AM
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Recently pinax added a basic_project in addition to a complete_project.
In the basic project fewer things are provided, like registration with openid support and email validation. In addition there's a structure to create your menus and submenus.
So far I found it a very good starting point for my development and not obtrusive at all.
also +1 for Blueprint CSS as well. This finally got me out of CSS hell.
Its much better to let people get their feet wet with out jumping through the hoop of a sign-up.
Maybe I could rephrase "well documented" in: given the clarity and the good structure of the code I did not have problems finding my way around.
I've never been a huge fan of this approach. I like Django because it removes some of the annoying parts of creating a web app, but I don't like when the user registration, commenting, profiles, avatars, and more site-specific functionality like "groups/message boards" are pre-built for me
In the basic project fewer things are provided, like registration with openid support and email validation. In addition there's a structure to create your menus and submenus.
So far I found it a very good starting point for my development and not obtrusive at all.
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