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Re:Why More Americans Are Using Fake License Plates and Gett... by WalterBright on Monday May 01, 2023 @11:41PM (#35783089)
Avoiding an accident is always a valid reason for breaking a traffic law.

For example, on a two lane road I'll move into the left lane if there's a cyclist on the right shoulder, if the left lane is clear.

As for a red light, my pedal will be to the metal if my buddy is bleeding out in the passenger seat. Is that far-fetched? It happened to a friend of mine at Boeing. He didn't get his friend to the hospital in time.

Re:Why More Americans Are Using Fake License Plates and Gett... by schmookeeg on Monday May 01, 2023 @11:50PM (#35783162)
I suppose the camera would have a great shot to prove this heroism, and if you couldn't get dismissal for the ticket under these extraordinary circumstances, you'd be one gofundme away from turning a profit from the outrage/sympathy legions.

sorry about your friend's friend.

Re:Why More Americans Are Using Fake License Plates and Gett... by WalterBright on Monday May 01, 2023 @11:55PM (#35783195)
I wouldn't mind paying the ticket if I thereby avoided an accident or got someone to the hospital in time.

I'm merely pointing out these absolutist statements are wrong.

Re:Why More Americans Are Using Fake License Plates and Gett... by curiousg on Monday May 01, 2023 @11:43PM (#35783108)
Does this happen often?
Re:Why More Americans Are Using Fake License Plates and Gett... by WalterBright on Monday May 01, 2023 @11:47PM (#35783130)
Police and emergency vehicles do it all the time. And sometimes, you get the terrible job of being an emergency driver.
Re:Why More Americans Are Using Fake License Plates and Gett... by matrixdata on Monday May 01, 2023 @11:54PM (#35783190)
More often, cars at a red light need to clear a path ASAP for emergency vehicles approaching from behind. The cars at the front of the line have nowhere to go except past the intersection, running the light.
Re:Why More Americans Are Using Fake License Plates and Gett... by WalterBright on Monday May 01, 2023 @11:58PM (#35783208)
Yup.

As always, use your best judgement rather than blindly following rules. This is also why cops, prosecutors, judges, and juries have discretion about applying the law, because the law simply cannot be blindly applied.

(Which is why I object to mandatory sentencing laws.)

Re:Why More Americans Are Using Fake License Plates and Gett... by King-Aaron on Tuesday May 02, 2023 @01:18AM (#35783655)
You can always fight a ticket if you have a legitimate reason behind it. Whether or not the approving party will see your reasons as legitimate is another story.
Re:Why More Americans Are Using Fake License Plates and Gett... by rocket_surgeron on Tuesday May 02, 2023 @10:53AM (#35788391)
I am a volunteer EMT who has run thousands of calls.

If someone is "bleeding out" in that they have an uncontrolled hemorrhage driving faster is never the preferred option.

Generally speaking there are two types of hemorrhage:

1. Those that can be controlled through direct pressure and the body's clotting ability.

2. Those that cannot be controlled through direct pressure and the body's clotting ability.

If the hemorrhage is type 1 the best course of action is to calm down, slow down, and apply direct pressure while the patient is immobile until the bleeding stops. Driving fast will only stress the patient and may possibly lead to additional bleeding through jostling or poor application of direct pressure. Once the bleeding has stopped you can travel to the hospital at a reasonable and prudent speed.

If the hemorrhage is type 2 the only course of action is to apply a tourniquet. Once the tourniquet is applied you can proceed to the hospital at a safe pace. It is impossible to drive fast enough to save someone with an uncontrollable hemorrhage unless you are within 180-to-300 seconds of a hospital. A tourniquet can be anything, including a shoelace, belt, or torn-up shirt.

Even if the hemorrhage is a type that cannot be stopped by a tourniquet or pressure, like a chest wound, driving faster will likely not help because without applying an occlusive bandage to the wound(s) the patient will likely be dead in minutes. An occlusive bandage is any airtight barrier, like a piece of plastic, that can create a seal needed to allow for adequate respiration.

In all cases treating for shock is more important than speed. For non-EMS personnel the only preventative measures for shock are: stop bleeding, wrap patient to retain body heat, and place patient in a position of comfort.

When it comes to bleeding driving faster without basic interventions does little-to-nothing to improve the outcome for the patient, and a lot to increase the chances of creating more than one patient.

Driving faster than is reasonable is called "diesel therapy" and the only times I have used that is for breech presentations during childbirth, which are also the only times I've heard my paramedic sound scared and we've run some gnarly calls.

If you come across someone who has amputated their leg with a chainsaw and you are five minutes from the hospital at maximum speed and EMS is 30 minutes away, it is better to lie the patient down, keep them still, apply a tourniquet to the appendage, do whatever is necessary to warm them (including putting them in an idling car, preferably lying down, with the heater at maximum), and call 911 than it is to throw them in a car and drive fast.

Re:Why More Americans Are Using Fake License Plates and Gett... by WalterBright on Tuesday May 02, 2023 @08:46PM (#35796302)
True, but I am not a trained EMT.

Although I would drive fast, I would not drive recklessly, as I am well aware that causing an accident would do nobody any good.

Re:Why More Americans Are Using Fake License Plates and Gett... by rocket_surgeron on Thursday May 04, 2023 @10:48PM (#35824694)
Don't worry, the control of external bleeding is basic first aid, no EMT training necessary.

What I said is the exact same stuff they teach you in Lifeguard training, and if 15-year-old me can learn it, anyone can. Never took it, but babysitter training probably covers it as well.

https://www.redcross.org/take-a-class/first-aid/first-aid-tr...