Geoffrey Hinton leaves Google and can now speak freely about his AI concern

Re:Geoffrey Hinton leaves Google and can now speak freely ab... by AndrewKemendo on Monday May 01, 2023 @03:21PM (#35777774)

I had lunch with Yoshua Bengio at the AGI 2014 conference in Laval, CA. This was just before his talk on pathways to AGI via neural networks.

Everyone at that conference, including myself, have assumed we will eventually create smarter than human computers and beyond.

So it’s not a new position for people who have been in AI for a long time, though generally it was seen as an outsider position until recently.

There’s a ton of really great work done prior to all of this around these questions and technical approaches - I think my mentor Ben Goertzel was the pioneer here holistically, but others were doing good technical work then too.

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Re:Geoffrey Hinton leaves Google and can now speak freely ab... by fatherzine on Monday May 01, 2023 @03:53PM (#35778223)

Possibly he estimated that AGI will come after his death. Like most of us, he was content to do his best work, knowing he will not have to personally deal with the consequences of his own creation. That he is 75 and got worried, now that's an interesting development.

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Re:Geoffrey Hinton leaves Google and can now speak freely ab... by AndrewKemendo on Monday May 01, 2023 @09:06PM (#35781762)

I can promise you that this is not the case. Also Yoshua is significantly younger than Geoff.

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Re:Geoffrey Hinton leaves Google and can now speak freely ab... by 93po on Monday May 01, 2023 @05:23PM (#35779367)

Hey can I ask a question about Ben Goertzel? It's sort of hard to figure out how seriously to take anything he says. Which is maybe a mean thing to say. But his recent crypto venture sort of seems scammy and cash grabby, and the thing he's most well known for (Sophia) seems like sort of a gimmick, so I'm not really sure what to think.

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