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Re:Why Mormons Make Great FBI Recruits by potta_coffee on Monday May 01, 2023 @12:29PM (#35775168)
My perception is that they don't want to "blend in" to the point that there's no distinction, but they want acceptance under the umbrella of Christianity. Most other groups under Christianity reject LDS doctrine as heresy, LDS church says "we are Christians though". I'm not trying to project an opinion about who is correct, just trying to describe what I think is going on.
Re:Why Mormons Make Great FBI Recruits by mensetmanusman on Monday May 01, 2023 @12:42PM (#35775383)
I believe not accepting the divinity of Christ in the trinity is the stumbling block. Same with Muslims, who misunderstand the trinity to mean three Gods.
Re:Why Mormons Make Great FBI Recruits by 128bytes on Monday May 01, 2023 @01:20PM (#35776042)
Characterizing it as 'misunderstanding' is disingenous, we just don't believe it stands up to scrutiny. Any inquiries into the nature of the trinity result in the trinitarian doing one of two things: collapsing into obvious polytheism, or claiming their doctrine is incomprehensible and therefore inscruitable, neither of which are satisfying answers. Many Catholics in particular will in fact fall into what their church considers various heresies in trying to wrap their heads around what they claim to believe.
Re:Why Mormons Make Great FBI Recruits by mensetmanusman on Monday May 01, 2023 @02:06PM (#35776739)
The latter of the two is probably reasonable, because claiming that a finite mind can not grasp an infinite one is a reasonable conclusion (even from a thermodynamic point of view :)).

“I and the Father are One” is the genesis.

Not all mysteries are scrutable in a given axiomatic framework, thankfully Gödel taught us that.

Re:Why Mormons Make Great FBI Recruits by NoZebra120vClip on Monday May 01, 2023 @02:46PM (#35777280)
That's an oversimplification and not charitable. Trinitarians are perfectly capable of defending the doctrine without making stupid mistakes. I wouldn't call the doctrine "incomprehensible"; it's just beyond human understanding, in a way that we could contemplate it for the rest of eternity without reaching the fullness of what God has planted in that seed of knowledge.

It's easy to believe in the Trinity if you approach it as a little child, as Jesus encourages, and if we word it simply as the Fathers did. If we don't attempt to adorn it with our own analogies or explanations, it's elegant, simple, and transcendent.

Re:Why Mormons Make Great FBI Recruits by freedomben on Tuesday May 02, 2023 @12:31PM (#35790120)
> I wouldn't call the doctrine "incomprehensible"; it's just beyond human understanding, in a way that we could contemplate it for the rest of eternity without reaching the fullness of what God has planted in that seed of knowledge.

I am trying but failing to see the difference here. It sounds like what you're saying is, "I wouldn't call the doctrine incomprehensible, it's just that we (as humans) can't comprehend it"

> It's easy to believe in the Trinity if you approach it as a little child, as Jesus encourages, and if we word it simply as the Fathers did.

If you approach it as a little child, it's also very easy to believe in Santa Claus, but that doesn't make it any more true (or any more likely to be true either).

Re:Why Mormons Make Great FBI Recruits by mrkstu on Monday May 01, 2023 @01:14PM (#35775941)
They/we do accept the divinity of Christ, we just don’t accept the Nicean creed version of the Trinity.

That version of the Trinity wasn’t/isn’t universal and other accepted Christian churches that don’t follow the Nicean creed - something shared with Jehovahs Witnesses.

Re:Why Mormons Make Great FBI Recruits by pseudalopex on Monday May 01, 2023 @04:28PM (#35778691)
Jehovah's Witnesses are not more accepted than Mormons as Christians in my experience. Or any other church in Wikipedia's non trinitarian category.[1]

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Nontrinitarian_denomi...

Re:Why Mormons Make Great FBI Recruits by AnimalMuppet on Monday May 01, 2023 @01:53PM (#35776574)
The whole "we can progress to become gods" thing is a stumbling block to "normal" Christianity, too. As is the "these other books are also scripture".