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Re:JPMorgan Chase Bank Assumes All the Deposits of First Rep... by JumpCrisscross on Monday May 01, 2023 @04:18AM (#35770279)
> end result as always: More money printing

You linked to a chart showing a 10% decrease in the monetary base from peak, even including the run-up since February.

Re:JPMorgan Chase Bank Assumes All the Deposits of First Rep... by hospitalhusband on Monday May 01, 2023 @04:22AM (#35770299)
Climate, meet weather.
Re:JPMorgan Chase Bank Assumes All the Deposits of First Rep... by throw_m239339 on Monday May 01, 2023 @04:39AM (#35770372)
> You linked to a chart showing a 10% decrease in the monetary base from peak, even including the run-up since February.

You should compare today's figures with 2010 figures, not the ones from a year ago.

Re:JPMorgan Chase Bank Assumes All the Deposits of First Rep... by JumpCrisscross on Monday May 01, 2023 @04:42AM (#35770396)
> should compare today's figures with 2010 figures, not the ones from a year ago

Nobody will argue we didn’t print money in the last decade. Per unit of GDP, we have 22% more money than we had ten years ago [1].

Implying recent bank failures are causing that to increase is false, and in some ways backwards.

[1] https://fred.stlouisfed.org/graph/?g=lJS

Re:JPMorgan Chase Bank Assumes All the Deposits of First Rep... by jarym on Monday May 01, 2023 @04:48AM (#35770430)
The amount of $ measured in terms of US GDP (also in $). That way of comparing things is fraught with issues
Re:JPMorgan Chase Bank Assumes All the Deposits of First Rep... by JumpCrisscross on Monday May 01, 2023 @04:51AM (#35770453)
> amount of $ measured in terms of US GDP (also in $)

It’s convention because it cancels out a lot of noise. (Both nominal.) And there are practical reasons for a larger economy needing more money to work than a smaller one. But if you prefer, it can be calculated in various ways, all of which tell a similar story: we’ve been in a different regime for the last 1 to 3 years in which there is less money, and a regime before that since 2008 when there was a lot more money.

Re:JPMorgan Chase Bank Assumes All the Deposits of First Rep... by TekMol on Monday May 01, 2023 @04:21AM (#35770296)
Re:JPMorgan Chase Bank Assumes All the Deposits of First Rep... by JumpCrisscross on Monday May 01, 2023 @04:22AM (#35770300)
Comparing the monetary base to average temperatures makes no sense. We expect the latter to be stable long term (human-wise). We want the former to track GDP, more or less [1]. In that metric, too, the anomalous period was 2008 - 2020, with a phase change towards less money per unit of GDP since.

There are many reasonable issues with this purchase and sale. But “money printer go brr” isn’t a particularly insightful nor relevant one.

[1] https://fred.stlouisfed.org/graph/?g=lJS

Re:JPMorgan Chase Bank Assumes All the Deposits of First Rep... by TekMol on Monday May 01, 2023 @04:25AM (#35770310)
"We want" ... not sure if a vote would really turn out that way.

I think for most people having something like the gold standard seems much more plausible.

Having a flexible supply of the settlement currency is a pretty new experiment. Not even 100 years old. And it has ended in desasters around the world multiple times already.

Re:JPMorgan Chase Bank Assumes All the Deposits of First Rep... by JumpCrisscross on Monday May 01, 2023 @04:27AM (#35770321)
> not sure if a vote would really turn out that way

We don’t vote on individual drug approvals, either.

Some people have a broad vendetta against the Fed and fiat currency. That is fine. But shoehorning it into every discussion, even when it isn’t relevant, doesn’t advance anything. This is a bank failure being resolved with public-private participation within the FDIC’s framework with support from the OCC. There are smart things one can say about the FHLBs, TBTF and liquidity ratios. (You pointed out centralisation. That’s a smart thing to discuss!) There isn’t much relevance to the Fed and monetary base, however, unless we’re speculating on the next rate rise.

Re:JPMorgan Chase Bank Assumes All the Deposits of First Rep... by pjc50 on Monday May 01, 2023 @04:48AM (#35770432)
The man in the street might find it plausible that asbestos and cigarettes are safe and that global warming isn't real. "Plausible" is not the same as "true", a problem which the AI people are grappling with.

Not having a flexible currency supply causes separate problems as people run out of specie. Furthermore the counterfactuals for 2008 and 2020 look .. bad.

Re:JPMorgan Chase Bank Assumes All the Deposits of First Rep... by qwytw on Monday May 01, 2023 @05:43AM (#35770727)
> And it has ended in desasters around the world multiple times already.

Well the global economy and most national ones were in a permanent boom and bust cycle between at least the mid to late 18th century and the Great Depression.

The gold standard was never stable, just look at:

https://www.officialdata.org/us/inflation/1800?amount=1#:~:t....

Just instead of steadily (well prior to 2020 anyway) going up all the time like now the worth of currencies was swinging up and down in a wildly volatile and unpredictable manner every few years..