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Re:Whistleblowers are the conscience of society, yet suffer ... by lettergram on Sunday April 30, 2023 @12:26PM (#35764085)
In a democracy almost everything should be public. Our weapons for sure, perhaps not where they are located, but what we pay for yes.
Re:Whistleblowers are the conscience of society, yet suffer ... by barney54 on Sunday April 30, 2023 @01:14PM (#35764563)
I don’t know why some people are downvoting this comment. What is wrong with transparency?
Re:Whistleblowers are the conscience of society, yet suffer ... by goodpoint on Monday May 01, 2023 @05:50AM (#35770766)
Perhaps many people in US would rather have a "strong government" than democracy.
Re:Whistleblowers are the conscience of society, yet suffer ... by pastacacioepepe on Sunday April 30, 2023 @01:15PM (#35764566)
Exactly right, you can't have democracy without information being available to everyone. But we all know this is just an illusion, all democratic states hide a great deal from their citizens.
Re:Whistleblowers are the conscience of society, yet suffer ... by HeWhoLurksLate on Sunday April 30, 2023 @01:55PM (#35764913)
I want to add- there is significant value at the world level, of keeping secrets.

Eveybody wants warfare to be asymmetric and biased towards them- why would we want to give a potential adversary perfect information about what weaponry we have as well as its exact capabilities? Unfortunately, when you want to keep a secret, you can't tell all of your citizens and trust that they won't tell anybody...

Re:Whistleblowers are the conscience of society, yet suffer ... by guide42 on Sunday April 30, 2023 @11:14PM (#35768739)
> why would we want to give a potential adversary perfect information about what weaponry we have as well as its exact capabilities

To be fair and let the best win? There is just no honor anymore.

Re:Whistleblowers are the conscience of society, yet suffer ... by LawTalkingGuy on Monday May 01, 2023 @04:56PM (#35779020)
> there is significant value at the world level, of keeping secrets.

There can be. But secrets can also be unimportant, or easily learnable through other public means. We need to analyze what we're keeping secret and optimize.

The democracy answer is omni-present. People can't really be said to support something they don't know about and if secrets encompass too much of their government it becomes, for practical purposes, illegitimate.

The cost of keeping the secret has to be weighed along with the cost of it leaking and the chance of that happening. It's not practical to keep everything a secret for reasons of censorship limiting other valid activity or just the increased bookkeeping in tracking secrets without revealing them.

And ultimately, not everything is all or nothing. You can have an undisclosed number of weapons for instance, but have a process where civilians can band together and form a special body, get some people vetted, and be granted access to otherwise secret information that they, because of their unique skills or interests, may have input on. This exists today in the form of aerospace companies, etc, who have access to many secrets to aid in the planning and construction of further tools.

Re:Whistleblowers are the conscience of society, yet suffer ... by drewcoo on Sunday April 30, 2023 @01:45PM (#35764835)
I'd hope for more than just transparency.

Even public information about our military is not commonly known, so we don't have a well-informed citizenry.

How many Americans are aware of this, clearly public info because Al Jazeera has it?

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/9/10/infographic-us-mili...

Re:Whistleblowers are the conscience of society, yet suffer ... by zirgs on Monday May 01, 2023 @10:09AM (#35772980)
This looks good. The info is a bit outdated though. I hope that the USA will increase its military presence in Eastern Europe.