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Re:Why Are Lithium Prices Collapsing? by smitty1e on Sunday April 30, 2023 @07:32AM (#35761602)
Source?

Morality seems more of a subjective call, e.g. "Thou shalt marry heterosexually ahead of procreation", than a stochastic analysis, e.g. "X percent of fatal car crashes involve blood alcohol above Y concentration."

Re:Why Are Lithium Prices Collapsing? by yunohn on Sunday April 30, 2023 @08:02AM (#35761778)
Straight from Wikipedia, which is an objective source for such a general topic. Religious morality is a sub-category, not all of morality itself.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morality

Re:Why Are Lithium Prices Collapsing? by smitty1e on Sunday April 30, 2023 @12:03PM (#35763847)
What I'm after is that much of the ethics by which our legal system operates, e.g. a BAC limit for legal driving, is divorced from moral questions such as: "Is drinking beer a sinful act?"
Re:Why Are Lithium Prices Collapsing? by yunohn on Sunday April 30, 2023 @12:07PM (#35763889)
I think you’re gravely misguided. BAC has nothing to do with sin, it’s connected to the morality and ethics of putting your fellow citizens at risk of your impaired driving.
Re:Why Are Lithium Prices Collapsing? by smitty1e on Sunday April 30, 2023 @01:31PM (#35764708)
Indeed, this is the point I'm after. Glad we could get there.
Re:Why Are Lithium Prices Collapsing? by yunohn on Sunday April 30, 2023 @02:48PM (#35765422)
My repeated point has been that morality != religious sin, rather the latter is a subset. I don’t necessarily agree with laws/taxes in this regard, but it’s important to understand where they come from.
Re:Why Are Lithium Prices Collapsing? by smitty1e on Sunday April 30, 2023 @08:52PM (#35767975)
OK, I disagree with the "subset" point, though I yield to your majority opinion on the matter.

My argument is that we can declutter discussion by treating all "moral compass" arguments as orthogonal to an "ethical plane".

If our subjective judgements are treated as internal (booze==sin), and de-conflicted from the external, legal arguments, we'd be in better shape.

But too many are invested in the status quo to tidy up the model like that.