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Re:New York to Ban Natural Gas, Including Stoves, in New Bui... by MagicMoonlight on Saturday April 29, 2023 @05:36PM (#35757456)
1. Because destroying the planet affects everyone and injuring yourself costs everyone else in state spending. We also don’t allow asbestos or releasing poison gas in your garden.

2. Would you consider spreading awareness a suitable solution to knife crime? No? I wonder why.

Re:New York to Ban Natural Gas, Including Stoves, in New Bui... by iamdamian on Saturday April 29, 2023 @05:38PM (#35757467)
I haven't seen evidence that this regulation will prevent the planet from being destroyed.

Also, personal health is not something that's generally regulated by the government, despite the potential to cause additional state spending.

Re:New York to Ban Natural Gas, Including Stoves, in New Bui... by NLPaep on Saturday April 29, 2023 @05:46PM (#35757558)
It’s not? Drugs are illegal
Re:New York to Ban Natural Gas, Including Stoves, in New Bui... by fallingknife on Saturday April 29, 2023 @07:33PM (#35758339)
And how's that going?
Re:New York to Ban Natural Gas, Including Stoves, in New Bui... by hedora on Saturday April 29, 2023 @07:05PM (#35758147)
> I haven't seen evidence that this regulation will prevent the planet from being destroyed.

There is plenty of evidence that a 100% phase out of natural gas is necessary but not sufficient.

Re:New York to Ban Natural Gas, Including Stoves, in New Bui... by stevehawk on Saturday April 29, 2023 @05:43PM (#35757525)
i don't follow your argument on #2.

i also dont understand why we can't have legislation that says "you can only have a stove cooktop if its properly vented"..

In the winter, when i lose electricity, i can run my house on a small amount of power because i have natural gas heat, cooktop, clothes dryer, and two natural gas fireplaces. I'm not particularly interested in giving up that safety or luxury.

Re:New York to Ban Natural Gas, Including Stoves, in New Bui... by IG_Semmelweiss on Saturday April 29, 2023 @06:41PM (#35757967)
this is extremely important to highlight.

Monoculture is risky in all domains. Heating is not exempt

Re:New York to Ban Natural Gas, Including Stoves, in New Bui... by brewdad on Sunday April 30, 2023 @12:15AM (#35759641)
Good thing you won’t have to. No one is talking about forcing you to rip out your gas fireplace. You simply won’t be able to replace it when it breaks down 30 years from now.
Re:New York to Ban Natural Gas, Including Stoves, in New Bui... by stevehawk on Wednesday May 03, 2023 @08:43AM (#35801713)
I'm not sure why you think that makes me feel any better? The problem still exists, you've just kicked the can down the road. I'm also not excited about ripping out walls in a fairly large house just to run 10/3 so i can get a 240v connection to an electric cooktop at some point in the future.
Re:New York to Ban Natural Gas, Including Stoves, in New Bui... by AbrahamParangi on Saturday April 29, 2023 @06:31PM (#35757899)
1. Do you believe in banning other bad things people do to themselves like smoking or eating too much? Obesity is by far the largest public health problem in the United States.

2. There is a relevant difference between doing something bad for you (like smoking - legal but the government tries hard to let you know it's bad) and murdering others with a knife.