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Re:New York to Ban Natural Gas, Including Stoves, in New Bui... by topaz0 on Saturday April 29, 2023 @05:08PM (#35757207)
If you try to do exactly what you were doing on the gas stove in the same way, you will have a bad time, but my and many other people's experience is that a decent electric stove is perfectly capable of making good food once you figure out how to use it. Electric stoves in general can heat faster than gas, and in my experience heat more evenly (no hot spots), so you don't need the crutch of a copper bottom to conduct that heat across the surface. It's certainly true that there are a lot of crappy cheap electric stoves out there that are not nice to cook with, but there are also plenty of crappy gas stoves that don't work well too. There's a ton of propaganda out there about how cooking with gas is better (much of it funded by the gas producers and distributors), but it doesn't hold up well under inspection.

You are right that most people in new york have gas, but new york is an outlier in that -- one of only five states that are majority gas. Most of Tucker Carlson's audience have electric stoves.

Re:New York to Ban Natural Gas, Including Stoves, in New Bui... by annexrichmond on Saturday April 29, 2023 @05:25PM (#35757353)
And there’s no such thing as propaganda for electric stoves in your view? It’s always the “other side” that’s a victim of propaganda?
Re:New York to Ban Natural Gas, Including Stoves, in New Bui... by topaz0 on Saturday April 29, 2023 @06:10PM (#35757754)
To be clear, I used to believe the gas stove propaganda myself. I too, like GP, had the feeling that gas was self-evidently better than electric, and that it wasn't possible to have an argument about it. Then I tried being open-minded about it and found the arguments for electric (and my experiences, once I gave it a chance) to be very convincing.
Re:New York to Ban Natural Gas, Including Stoves, in New Bui... by kelipso on Saturday April 29, 2023 @11:48PM (#35759542)
Good job falling for the electric stove propaganda campaign, with its arguments for their supposed benefits and accusations of gas stove propaganda. Fools and their quality stoves soon parted or whatever.
Re:New York to Ban Natural Gas, Including Stoves, in New Bui... by whiddershins on Sunday April 30, 2023 @12:04AM (#35759601)
The person you are responding to managed to work Tucker Carlson into the convo so obviously knows precisely what is propaganda and what is objective fact.

All rational and educated modern chefs understand that copper bottom pans are just a crutch, because Mother Jones said so.

Re:New York to Ban Natural Gas, Including Stoves, in New Bui... by whiddershins on Saturday April 29, 2023 @05:48PM (#35757580)
It’s not propaganda. I’ve cooked on all sorts of stoves.

Electric is way worse than gas. It’s not even up for reasonable debate.

Re:New York to Ban Natural Gas, Including Stoves, in New Bui... by topaz0 on Saturday April 29, 2023 @06:58PM (#35758108)
Here's some reading about how much propaganda there has been for gas in the last century or so: https://www.motherjones.com/environment/2021/06/how-the-foss...
Re:New York to Ban Natural Gas, Including Stoves, in New Bui... by kibwen on Saturday April 29, 2023 @07:03PM (#35758137)
Have you used an induction stove before? It's better than gas, and it's not even close (and yes, I have a gas range). Note that induction is not the same thing as resistive.
Re:New York to Ban Natural Gas, Including Stoves, in New Bui... by dmix on Saturday April 29, 2023 @10:00PM (#35759079)
> but my and many other people's experience is that a decent electric stove is perfectly capable of making good food once you figure out how to use it

Not surprised your glib attitude, towards something a millions of people have a very strong preference towards and is dismissed out of hand, coincides with your authoritarian leaning takes. "I like induction, you can learn to like it to, move along citizen."

Re:New York to Ban Natural Gas, Including Stoves, in New Bui... by dang on Monday May 01, 2023 @03:16AM (#35769929)
Please don't cross into personal attack.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html