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Re:New York to Ban Natural Gas, Including Stoves, in New Bui... by endisneigh on Saturday April 29, 2023 @03:45PM (#35756418)
From what I’ve read the same indoor pollution exists with induction even if not vented. The confounding variable is that induction generally is present in new construction which will have proper ventilation.

TLDR: it’s a function of ventilation

Re:New York to Ban Natural Gas, Including Stoves, in New Bui... by throwaway049 on Saturday April 29, 2023 @03:57PM (#35756557)
I don't have a view either way, but we can measure pollution from different cooking methods under controlled conditions so we know which is better or worse independent of ventilation.

Ventilation depends partly on individual behaviour, eg I open windows in good weather and close them in winter.

Re:New York to Ban Natural Gas, Including Stoves, in New Bui... by taeric on Saturday April 29, 2023 @04:09PM (#35756662)
Most of the in air particles will be what you are cooking...
Re:New York to Ban Natural Gas, Including Stoves, in New Bui... by dustymcp on Saturday April 29, 2023 @03:54PM (#35756527)
Cooking itself releases a bunch of stuff that isnt great regardless of stove its entirely on the ventilation.
Re:New York to Ban Natural Gas, Including Stoves, in New Bui... by chokma on Saturday April 29, 2023 @04:25PM (#35756811)
Yeah, searing meat in the pan will raise the PM2.5 levels in my flat by a factor of 30+.
Re:New York to Ban Natural Gas, Including Stoves, in New Bui... by bluescrn on Saturday April 29, 2023 @06:44PM (#35757993)
Well, before long that choice to eat meat will likely be taken away to 'save the planet', so that one will be solved...
Re:New York to Ban Natural Gas, Including Stoves, in New Bui... by collegeburner on Saturday April 29, 2023 @09:58PM (#35759066)
this is why all yall need to start grilling :D

tho i admit it kinda sucks ass when it's 100 degrees

Re:New York to Ban Natural Gas, Including Stoves, in New Bui... by Zak on Saturday April 29, 2023 @04:44PM (#35756979)
One of the concerns is nitrogen oxides (mostly nitrogen dioxide, as I recall) from high temperature combustion. Car engines attempt to limit combustion temperatures (usually by adding some exhaust gasses to the intake air) to reduce its production.

Ventilation prevents it from reaching hazardous levels from a gas stove; induction does not produce it.

Re:New York to Ban Natural Gas, Including Stoves, in New Bui... by endisneigh on Saturday April 29, 2023 @04:52PM (#35757064)
The point is most of the harm comes from the cooking, not the gas. Classic over optimizing. Might as well ban Teflon while you’re at it (the eu did this, as it’s harmful)
Re:New York to Ban Natural Gas, Including Stoves, in New Bui... by Zak on Saturday April 29, 2023 @04:59PM (#35757132)
I'm not sure whether that's true (nitrogen dioxide can be pretty bad), but I am sure that ventilation is the answer either way. I suspect the main motivation for the ban is to be able to shut down the gas lines in the future because their existence results in methane leaking into the atmosphere. Health concerns might help them sell it ("think of the children" tends to be pretty effective, politically).
Re:New York to Ban Natural Gas, Including Stoves, in New Bui... by amluto on Saturday April 29, 2023 @07:45PM (#35758403)
Cooking on induction at moderate temperature does not seem to produce significant particulate pollution. Source: I have a stove, and I have a portable PM2.5 meter.

So you can simmer a stock for a couple hours without needing to run the fan (and cook most anything under 300 degrees or so), and with the fan off you don’t lose nice conditioned air from inside.

Re:New York to Ban Natural Gas, Including Stoves, in New Bui... by hedora on Saturday April 29, 2023 @07:45PM (#35758405)
There is some evidence that the skyrocketing asthma rates are due to natural gas.

They should ban teflon. It leaches estrogen analogues into food, and is an endocrine disrupter. Also, teflon pans last 2-5% as long as cheaper cast iron / stainless steel equivalents (or most more expensive options).