Re:New York to Ban Natural Gas, Including Stoves, in New Bui...
by hedora on Saturday April 29, 2023 @03:08PM
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$50-60K is enough to buy a backup system, and not much compared to the price of a house in this area.
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Re:New York to Ban Natural Gas, Including Stoves, in New Bui...
by toxik on Saturday April 29, 2023 @03:14PM
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$50-60K is more money than most people I know make per year.
Re:New York to Ban Natural Gas, Including Stoves, in New Bui...
by anonymouskimmer on Saturday April 29, 2023 @03:22PM
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Which is why "around here" is 65% renters, when "here" is San Francisco: https://thefrisc.com/sf-is-65-rental-households-but-knows-al...
Re:New York to Ban Natural Gas, Including Stoves, in New Bui...
by toxik on Saturday April 29, 2023 @03:52PM
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You mean almost half SF owns and it's incredibly expensive?
Re:New York to Ban Natural Gas, Including Stoves, in New Bui...
by anonymouskimmer on Saturday April 29, 2023 @03:56PM
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If I read the criticisms correctly another 34% is homeless. But that 1% who owns can afford battery backups! :P
Re:New York to Ban Natural Gas, Including Stoves, in New Bui...
by hedora on Saturday April 29, 2023 @04:08PM
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Circling back, I did say government services are reminiscent of the third world.
Re:New York to Ban Natural Gas, Including Stoves, in New Bui...
by brianwawok on Saturday April 29, 2023 @03:24PM
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My whole house natural gas generator was closer to 10k and 5-10k install. Provides like 90 amps. Good for all the storms around here. I just turn off my hot tub and EV charging and I can do anything else including AC.
Re:New York to Ban Natural Gas, Including Stoves, in New Bui...
by hedora on Saturday April 29, 2023 @04:11PM
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That works if you have natural gas service. My estimate assumes solar panels, batteries and a generator that tops the battery off in emergencies.
This year, most people with just batteries lost power due to no sun, and people with just generators lost power due to no propane delivery service/supply.
Re:New York to Ban Natural Gas, Including Stoves, in New Bui...
by toast0 on Saturday April 29, 2023 @04:41PM
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Most natural gas generators are orderable for propane. Propane delivery is available most places, although you also need to find a place for the tank. It's more convenient to have fuel delivered via pipeline, but somewhat less resilient (although I personally don't have any experience with outages of utility natural gas, it is a possibility).
Based on the one ~ 3 day outage I had, my whole house generator's tank is good for probably close to two weeks, although if it were very hot or very cold, that might change. I have a portable generator for my well, that one runs on gasoline and doesn't sip fuel, I'd probably just run it for a few minutes twice a day (did not have that generator during the 3 day outage... we were just stinky)