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Re:Study: ChatGPT Outperforms Physicians in Quality, Empathe... by Retric on Saturday April 29, 2023 @11:30AM (#35753865)
Abstractions like that are meaningless. Why is the large hadron collider so expensive it’s just throwing stuff at each other and looking at what happens? Random teens could do that…

The actual process of doing blood work is often surprisingly complicated.

Re:Study: ChatGPT Outperforms Physicians in Quality, Empathe... by hef19898 on Saturday April 29, 2023 @11:57AM (#35754115)
I see a resurected Theranos on the horizon. This time powered by by ChatGPT. What could go wrong?
Re:Study: ChatGPT Outperforms Physicians in Quality, Empathe... by alexb_ on Saturday April 29, 2023 @03:58PM (#35756568)
Funny enough, I'm actually developing an AI-powered biomedical technological breakthrough that's about to disrupt the medical industry. It uses wearables to enable a blockchain-enabled data management system that also functions as a cloud based SaaS provider, linking with ChatGPT and NFTs to create value for those who are underprivileged, all with only 1 drop of blood. If you want to further this please give me a few billion dollars and I promise something might come :)
Re:Study: ChatGPT Outperforms Physicians in Quality, Empathe... by snovv_crash on Saturday April 29, 2023 @04:57PM (#35757112)
I'm only interested if the blood is delivered by drones.
Re:Study: ChatGPT Outperforms Physicians in Quality, Empathe... by Firmwarrior on Saturday April 29, 2023 @09:01PM (#35758776)
Sounds like it's not very eco friendly..
Re:Study: ChatGPT Outperforms Physicians in Quality, Empathe... by chaxor on Saturday April 29, 2023 @07:32PM (#35758334)
Theranos wasn't a bad idea, and is actually possible. It is extremely unfortunate that it was so badly mismanaged.
Re:Study: ChatGPT Outperforms Physicians in Quality, Empathe... by hef19898 on Sunday April 30, 2023 @02:58AM (#35760262)
Theranos was a fraud, selling a service based on technology that simply doesn't exist.
Re:Study: ChatGPT Outperforms Physicians in Quality, Empathe... by chaxor on Thursday May 04, 2023 @01:21AM (#35811528)
Of course... that's absolutely true, and I didn't say otherwise.

However, the basic idea actually is possible, but only for a very select few of the tests they proposed (which they still unfortunately didn't really get right of course). My point is that, unfortunately, the tests that are possible to do now won't get a company to form out of it - simply because they ruined the scene for everyone. Anyone trying to get a company going in this area and raising money for it will be met with a complete block of resistance because of the precedent set, even if the technology is actually completely reliable.

Re:Study: ChatGPT Outperforms Physicians in Quality, Empathe... by Retric on Sunday April 30, 2023 @03:41PM (#35765934)
No, the variability of individual drops of blood are too high for the precision needed to do most of the tests they where proposing. Worse you get excessive contamination between blood and other substances from a finger prick.

So, no very quickly people were calling Theranos either incompetent or fraudulent.

Re:Study: ChatGPT Outperforms Physicians in Quality, Empathe... by chaxor on Thursday May 04, 2023 @01:16AM (#35811508)
"the tests they were proposing" - yeah, I would agree that some (probably most towards the end) of the tests they were trying to make part of the product were a big part of why they were so fraudulent. I agree that it was a bad company.

My point is that the general idea was not a bad idea, and because it was so badly mismanaged (trying to add too many products and run before walking, using other companies' tech illegally, etc, etc) we now are worse off because few people want to attempt doing the possible ideas in this space (because people think none of it is possible - which is simply not true).

The company that could reliably be made is far less 'attractive' of course, but it would still be quite beneficial.

Re:Study: ChatGPT Outperforms Physicians in Quality, Empathe... by 77pt77 on Sunday April 30, 2023 @06:03AM (#35761142)
Chatgpt can't get pregnant when things go wrong in order to soften the blow.
Re:Study: ChatGPT Outperforms Physicians in Quality, Empathe... by chaxor on Saturday April 29, 2023 @07:31PM (#35758325)
The last test someone I know had done cost $600 at the physician.

We looked it up and it cost a little less to *buy the FDA approved equipment for your house, and run the test every day for an entire month*.

It's absolutely heinously broken - almost completely due to insurance companies. Insurance should be made illegal and obsolete due to the insane hindrance it is to progress in humanity.

Re:Study: ChatGPT Outperforms Physicians in Quality, Empathe... by Retric on Saturday April 29, 2023 @08:59PM (#35758768)
There’s often many tests for the same things with various levels of accuracy and cost.

You really didn’t provide enough information for a more detailed analysis, but for example there’s a reason hospitals don’t just use the cheap COVID tests and call it good.

Re:Study: ChatGPT Outperforms Physicians in Quality, Empathe... by chaxor on Sunday April 30, 2023 @02:20AM (#35760101)
It wasn't a viral test, and I didn't lay out details here because I don't want to put all my health information on display exactly, but I have several graduate degrees in both engineering and in biology related fields, so I'm quite certain that my analysis of the equipment and technical parameters is correct. It's the financial aspect of healthcare that is horribly wrong, not the science (only let down there is an academic one, as it's awfully basic and antiquated technology that makes it to the clinic, but that's not a bug - it's a feature for safety).

There is a reason I mentioned FDA approved equipment though - it is substantially more expensive to have that label (despite being able to purchase items that claim similar parameters, those need to be exhaustively tested). Despite this, the statement that purchasing some types of equipment for your home and using it regularly, is still often far cheaper than going to the physicians office and getting a test once.

I suppose I am a bit out of the typical demographic though, as I would rather use my own TEM made in my garage to do quick analyses of lab materials than take it to my colleagues across the hall and sign up for a slot on their more resolute EM. Being able to work independently and have your own data is a nice thing sometimes.