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Re:U.S. Rep. Angie Craig drops college requirement for staffers by kevviiinn on Friday April 28, 2023 @11:54AM (#35742944)
Police should definitely be more highly educated, we see the result of them not being so in the US
Re:U.S. Rep. Angie Craig drops college requirement for staffers by KMag on Friday April 28, 2023 @12:02PM (#35743100)
I strongly suspect the issues you're referring to are much more an issue with attitude and mindset, rather than directly with education. I think there are probably much more efficient ways to adjust attitude and mindset than broad-based college education.

I'm glad I got a broad-based education. It was definitely the right thing for me, but I think it's a hammer being applied to too many problems that aren't roughly nail-shaped.

Re:U.S. Rep. Angie Craig drops college requirement for staffers by gtop3 on Friday April 28, 2023 @01:13PM (#35744202)
I think a college education is a great screening tool for determining levels of conscientiousness, ability to communicate, and ability to follow directions. All great things. My worst interactions with police officers all involved individuals that were low on these skills.
Re:U.S. Rep. Angie Craig drops college requirement for staffers by giantg2 on Friday April 28, 2023 @02:34PM (#35745278)
A lot of that can go out the window when they are placed in the position of power (rather than the professor) and are surrounded by existing officers. If I remember right, there are some studies about police group dynamics as a factor in the type and severity of force used (group size was positively correlated with level of force).
Re:U.S. Rep. Angie Craig drops college requirement for staffers by version_five on Friday April 28, 2023 @12:09PM (#35743232)
It's not clear to me that a bunch of psychology grads would naturally be better cops. If anything, police forces would be better investing in more internal training and apprenticeship that's actually related to policing.
Re:U.S. Rep. Angie Craig drops college requirement for staffers by kevviiinn on Friday April 28, 2023 @05:19PM (#35747231)
Nobody said anything about what kind of degree let alone psychology

Not only does a criminal justice degree already exist but we could even introduce a new BA degree in policing with the kind of training that would result in an improved police force

Re:U.S. Rep. Angie Craig drops college requirement for staffers by geodel on Friday April 28, 2023 @12:39PM (#35743719)
More educated : Yes.

Have a second-rate college degree to fulfill arbitrary qualification requirement: No.

Re:U.S. Rep. Angie Craig drops college requirement for staffers by dsfyu404ed on Friday April 28, 2023 @12:42PM (#35743764)
Education won't fix broken incentives namely a lack of consequences for bad behavior. If anything shrinking the pool will only worsen it.
Re:U.S. Rep. Angie Craig drops college requirement for staffers by gwbrooks on Friday April 28, 2023 @12:52PM (#35743902)
Police need to be more highly trained -- I wouldn't equate that 1:1 with holding a degree.

U.S. training requirements for police are state-level matters sometimes augmented by local requirements; none of the state requirements, as I recall, are comparable to the more stringent standards required in many western European nations.

Re:U.S. Rep. Angie Craig drops college requirement for staffers by comte7092 on Friday April 28, 2023 @12:54PM (#35743930)
People with university educations can very much abuse their power. Thinking otherwise is a liberal fantasy, much like the formerly popular meme that China would magically liberalize its political system because of globalization.
Re:U.S. Rep. Angie Craig drops college requirement for staffers by hindsightbias on Friday April 28, 2023 @02:30PM (#35745235)
TIL Kissinger and Nixon were liberal fantisists.
Re:U.S. Rep. Angie Craig drops college requirement for staffers by comte7092 on Friday April 28, 2023 @02:36PM (#35745310)
Yes? Political liberalism goes well beyond the narrow understanding that exists within the US, wherein the label has grown to be largely incoherent/redefined to mean whatever is mainstream within the Democratic Party.
Re:U.S. Rep. Angie Craig drops college requirement for staffers by hindsightbias on Friday April 28, 2023 @03:43PM (#35746170)
TIL Kissinger and Nixon were Demorats. Along with apparently Reagan, Bush Sr, W. Who knew.
Re:U.S. Rep. Angie Craig drops college requirement for staffers by comte7092 on Friday April 28, 2023 @04:11PM (#35746478)
Hilarious
Re:U.S. Rep. Angie Craig drops college requirement for staffers by kevviiinn on Friday April 28, 2023 @07:18PM (#35748366)
Considering liberals aren't leftists I'm not surprised
Re:U.S. Rep. Angie Craig drops college requirement for staffers by VirusNewbie on Friday April 28, 2023 @02:21PM (#35745135)
what does education have to do with schooling?
Re:U.S. Rep. Angie Craig drops college requirement for staffers by rayiner on Friday April 28, 2023 @02:25PM (#35745184)
So police have college degrees in other developed countries?
Re:U.S. Rep. Angie Craig drops college requirement for staffers by kevviiinn on Saturday April 29, 2023 @08:27AM (#35752251)
Yes, actually

>Also, many other countries require officers to have a university degree - or equivalent - before joining the police, but in the US most forces just require the equivalent of a high-school diploma

>Maria Haberfeld, professor of police science at the John Jay College of Criminal Justice, says: "Some police forces in Europe have police university, where training lasts for three years - for me the standouts are Norway and Finland."

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-56834733

Re:U.S. Rep. Angie Craig drops college requirement for staffers by mkoubaa on Friday April 28, 2023 @04:17PM (#35746547)
Only if you think educated is a useful proxy for thoughtful, mature, and wise. I think it is categorically not.
Re:U.S. Rep. Angie Craig drops college requirement for staffers by Eumenes on Friday April 28, 2023 @04:28PM (#35746691)
Getting some 4 year degree does not equate to 'highly educated'. College is an extension of high school for most americans, who didn't learn much there either.
Re:U.S. Rep. Angie Craig drops college requirement for staffers by ryan93 on Friday April 28, 2023 @06:59PM (#35748209)
the solution is just to fire bad cops. The future bad cops will get the picture. no way to really pre screen cops other than keeping out known criminals.