Re:US adult cigarette smoking rate hits new all-time low
by erybodyknows on Thursday April 27, 2023 @01:24PM
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I disagree. I think a lot of people try various gimmicks and tactics without staring themselves in the mirror and deciding that they actually want to for themselves.
Re:US adult cigarette smoking rate hits new all-time low
by hammyhavoc on Thursday April 27, 2023 @01:31PM
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Exactly. The gimmicks are a compromise. It's just switching the medium you're getting your fix from. Any compromise becomes more compromises where you've supposedly done better by switching to x, but you still haven't quit, and like with vaping, may actually be worse for you, and has become a hobby with all the different odds and sods to modify your vaping setup with.
The intent to quit is something you have to be very honest with yourself over.
I say this with countless former smokers in the family, and homeless levels of alcoholism on my partner's side of the family. People can live through hell on the street for decades, people can try and help them too in all kinds of ways from treatment to money to a job, but if they don't want it for themselves then nothing is changing in the long-term. "It's just one drink". Life down the toilet once again, they never actually quit.
And yes, they eventually got off the street after almost twenty years, but it took them to genuinely care about themselves and want better.
Re:US adult cigarette smoking rate hits new all-time low
by hammyhavoc on Thursday April 27, 2023 @01:22PM
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How is it useless? If I acknowledge that placebo gimmickery didn't stop me smoking, but just powering on through withdrawal and not giving in to the easy instant gratification, how is that bad advice? It isn't like alcohol where it might actually cause you brain damage to suddenly stop.
Re:US adult cigarette smoking rate hits new all-time low
by Clubber on Thursday April 27, 2023 @02:42PM
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It's the same as telling a person with a lifelong heroin addiction to just stop using heroin.
Re:US adult cigarette smoking rate hits new all-time low
by hammyhavoc on Thursday April 27, 2023 @03:05PM
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Heroin is nothing like cigarettes, don't conflate them. Keep in mind I've had family in living facilities for months at a time over addiction.
Re:US adult cigarette smoking rate hits new all-time low
by Clubber on Thursday April 27, 2023 @04:01PM
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"Nicotine has been proven to be as addictive as cocaine and heroin and may even be more addictive."
Re:US adult cigarette smoking rate hits new all-time low
by hammyhavoc on Thursday April 27, 2023 @06:58PM
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People generally don't go to living facilities for cigarettes, nor sell themselves or everything they own or end up on the street jacking off strangers because of cigarettes though.
Re:US adult cigarette smoking rate hits new all-time low
by carlmr on Friday April 28, 2023 @03:45AM
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Something can be more addictive while causing less withdrawal symptoms.
Re:US adult cigarette smoking rate hits new all-time low
by Clubber on Friday April 28, 2023 @07:57AM
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I don't disagree with you, but the context was telling people to "just quit smoking," which is pretty silly advice because of how addictive it is. Those same people probably wouldn't seriously say, "just quit heroin."
This is useless advice that basically says “I quit smoking by simply not smoking any more”.