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Re:Europe Needs Digital Public Spaces That Are Independently... by hartator on Thursday April 27, 2023 @09:04AM (#35727446)
That’s not true. You can say f* Trump or f* Biden all you want online or outside. That’s not the case in France for example.

[Edit] Ref: https://news.yahoo.com/french-woman-faces-trial-insulting-16...

Re:Europe Needs Digital Public Spaces That Are Independently... by gambiting on Thursday April 27, 2023 @09:11AM (#35727542)
How is that not true? Yes you can say fuck trump or fuck biden(why are you self censoring yourself on the internet btw), but you can't say "I have a gun and I'm going to shoot you" to a police officer - you will be arrested and put in prison even if you were "just saying things". Your freedom of speech isn't absolute. For other examples - several states made it illegal for journalists to report on violations on farms, to protect their own industries.

>>That’s not the case in France for example.

I'm pretty sure you can say fuck trump or fuck biden in France and nothing would happen to you, in public or otherwise.

you picked a poor example though, insulting the French head of state hasn't been a crime for a decade now:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/jul/25/insulting-fren...

Re:Europe Needs Digital Public Spaces That Are Independently... by hartator on Thursday April 27, 2023 @09:16AM (#35727612)
Well go on and insult an EU country leader here. :)
Re:Europe Needs Digital Public Spaces That Are Independently... by gambiting on Thursday April 27, 2023 @09:21AM (#35727689)
Are you.....under the impression that French laws apply in all of EU or something?
Re:Europe Needs Digital Public Spaces That Are Independently... by hartator on Friday April 28, 2023 @09:20AM (#35740968)
It’s actually how the EU mostly work. Country members do still most of law and merge upstream. GDPR for example originated from the CNIL which is French. And contain things that restrict freedom of speech at an EU level. [1]

[1] https://www.reuters.com/article/eu-alphabet-privacy-idCNL5N2...

Re:Europe Needs Digital Public Spaces That Are Independently... by gambiting on Friday April 28, 2023 @01:46PM (#35744661)
No it isn't. Not in the slightest sense, I have no idea where you're getting your info from, that's literally not how the EU lawmaking works.
Re:Europe Needs Digital Public Spaces That Are Independently... by concordDance on Thursday April 27, 2023 @09:08AM (#35727500)
That's news to me. Got a citation or example?
Re:Europe Needs Digital Public Spaces That Are Independently... by peoplefromibiza on Thursday April 27, 2023 @09:09AM (#35727516)
not true since long time ago

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/jul/25/insulting-fren...

also: most EU countries have laws that protect public speech and especially people's representatives from being prosecuted for expressing their opinions.