Wow, citation needed
> the right carbohydrates can be very healthy
For what reason? Because of the essential nutrients they carry, which are not the carbohydrate? Or because some carbohydrate(s) ha(s|ve) some emergent property due to interactions with the body?
Right, the former
The person I'm responding to is literally saying: "I don't know if carbs or protein and fat are better for me"
I, like anyone with any knowledge of nutrition, am saying "it's obviously protein and fat, the stuff that helps you grow"
You, nit-picker extraordinaire, are coming in and adding "if you eat only processed fat and protein, this is worse compared to a diet high in vegetables"
Please go away.
Every major study comparing keto and other more balanced diets disagrees with you. Carbs aren't just good for what they are mixed with, but also because they can displace more harmful sources of energy, like saturated fats. Most things that are 0 carb, have lots of saturated fat and cholesterol. Note: Dietary cholesterol can have a disproportionate affect on blood lipids depending on your genetics, despite all the people clamoring that it doesn't matter.
It's not nit-picking if you're giving blanket advice that's misleading.
Necessary does not mean sufficient. In biology, necessary doesn't even mean harmless. It is often best to get small, or even minimal, amounts of needed things, like salt or iron.
Has anyone even used the word "necessary" in the entire thread? What are you on about?
> It's not nit-picking if you're giving blanket advice that's misleading
What advice am I giving that's misleading?
I am stating: in general, carbs are unnecessary for your health, and the goal behind consuming them should be to acquire nutrients, not calories from carbohydrate sources. Carbohydrate sources can help with energy, but little else. Eating healthy proteins and fats should be prioritized.
Thoughts of eating processed bullshit with full of saturated and trans fats is only coming out of your side of this conversation.
Conversely, the right carbohydrates can be very healthy when consumed correctly.
"Essential" means just that, essential. It doesn't say anything about how much you should eat, how often, when, or anything else. Plenty of unessential things are good to consume, like non-essential amino acids.
The leading cause of death for the developed world is heart disease, and a diet high in saturated fat and low in fiber is a great way to get it.