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Re:Layoff Runbook by candiddevmike on Monday April 24, 2023 @06:44PM (#35694245)
HSAs and FSAs are not entirely swappable. HSAs require a qualifying health plan, and are a pain in the ass to move around in my experience. FSAs are actually better for those that are laid off--you can use the full balance of the FSA before you pay it. Say you commit 3k to a FSA, you can use 3k of it on day one (or the day you are laid off...). Your company is on the hook for the remainder of the balance if you aren't there to pay it back.

I would be annoyed as hell if someone kept asking to be interviewed but never accepted the position. Interviews aren't free, don't waste peoples time doing them if you aren't serious/need to practice. Pay for an interview coach.

Re:Layoff Runbook by bheadmaster on Monday April 24, 2023 @07:26PM (#35694622)
> Interviews aren't free, don't waste peoples time doing them if you aren't serious/need to practice.

Poor companies, being exploited by all those impudent workers! Thoughts and prayers.

Seriously, though, people are still gonna do that and there's not much you can do to detect or prevent that. Might be easier on your nerves to just accept it as a fact of life.

Re:Layoff Runbook by throwaway280382 on Monday April 24, 2023 @06:46PM (#35694270)
HSA is deferred for future. I (in 30% tax bracket and pretty healthy) can defer that to future as I only average about two doctor visits per year last 2 years. So, if I put it in FSA, I loose the money since my number of visits to doctor are few and far between. HSA, I can use after I retire also or when I grow older. So for my situation, it is better.
Re:Layoff Runbook by candiddevmike on Monday April 24, 2023 @06:52PM (#35694333)
Lately, I haven't been seeing the HSA math make sense, at least for a family. The monthly difference between a high deductible plan with a HSA is not cheap enough to cover the deductible gap, and care has gotten a lot more expensive.

Either choice will most likely result in medical bankruptcy without some sort of independent wealth. Best to have socialized healthcare and not have to worry about any of this.

Re:Layoff Runbook by dhosek on Monday April 24, 2023 @07:20PM (#35694566)
I’ve seen at least two companies where if you sign up for the high deductible plan, the employer will contribute the full deductible amount to an HSA. I suspect this might become an increasingly common option in the benefits menu.
Re:Layoff Runbook by tick_tock_tick on Monday April 24, 2023 @07:24PM (#35694603)
You can save receipts for medical care forever and claim them against the HSA years later. The money grows tax free so you basically use it as another 401k. After age 65 or if you become disabled you can start pulling money out of a HSA without a medical cost.
Re:Layoff Runbook by wombatpm on Monday April 24, 2023 @07:10PM (#35694486)
The only time an HSA worked for me was when it was the plan that had a max on out of pocket payments of 10k. I have a diabetic child and that runs to $1200 per month in out of pocket expenses. When I did the math for deductible, copays, etc it worked in my favor.
Re:Layoff Runbook by ptero on Monday April 24, 2023 @07:55PM (#35694825)
I disagree, but upvoted as I do not think you should be downvoted for your opinion. My objections:

First, all employers are different; some provide a big portion of the funding.

Even if not, HSAs can bring huge benefits if executed right. They are a triple tax-free account: pre-tax deposits, tax-free growth, non-taxable distributions. So a healthy high earner who maxes his HSA contributions for several early-career years can come out far ahead. Or a well-off family that can treat it as yet-another tax-advantaged savings vehicle.

But to reap big benefits HSAs have to be planned and executed over many years and impose some limitations, such as on using FSAs. For someone who is not sure they can diligently follow the strategy over many years, HSAs can be a big headache with limited utility. My 2c.

Re:Layoff Runbook by astura on Tuesday April 25, 2023 @05:27PM (#35706975)
This is highly plan and employer specific.

However, it's not at all unusual to be better off financially with a high deductible plan even if you max out your deductible.

Re:Layoff Runbook by Eumenes on Monday April 24, 2023 @07:34PM (#35694680)
HSA is great for self employed, esp. if you think you'll remain so for a long time (and don't require better insurance). Tax free contributions, tax free gains, and tax free withdrawals. I have 10 years worth of maximum contributions in one and have never taken a penny out. You can save healthcare related receipts (which includes things like lasik to cold/flu OTC meds) to pay yourself back as well. Use Fidelity, pick boring index fund with low admin costs (FZROX), and thats it.

Very big fan of these investment vehicles and wish there were more. They work best if you're healthy but still good if you use the doctor sometimes, you'll save money. HSAs, however, prob don't have a place in our system long-term, I predict future universal healthcare/phasing out of private insurance. Funding your own healthcare, with tax benefits, is blasphemy among certain schools of thought and would not funnel money into the bigger pool required for universal, which I disagree with.

Re:Layoff Runbook by mehlmao on Monday April 24, 2023 @07:54PM (#35694817)
Funding your own is great until you have an emergency and require the use of a $30,000 per hour operating theater.
Re:Layoff Runbook by Eumenes on Tuesday April 25, 2023 @08:55AM (#35699806)
So is it better to not fund it?
Re:Layoff Runbook by sgerenser on Tuesday April 25, 2023 @07:43PM (#35708151)
HDHPs all have out-of-pocket maximums, usually around $5K per person or $10K per family, per year.
Re:Layoff Runbook by asceybwyea on Monday April 24, 2023 @08:03PM (#35694890)
> Interviews aren't free, don't waste peoples time doing them if you aren't serious/need to practice. Pay for an interview coach.

1. While I understand this, its really hard for me to sympathize after seeing companies ghost me after multiple rounds of interviews, worst of which is when I spends hours working nights/weekends on their take home assignments (happens a lot more when you are less experienced). What I have learned as I grown older is, everyone (companies / people) always do what's best for them, you do what's best for you (this could be different for different people). I don't make any judgements.

2. Has anyone here actually used an interview coach? Is it really useful/effective?

Re:Layoff Runbook by projectazorian on Monday April 24, 2023 @08:36PM (#35695140)
> While I understand this, its really hard for me to sympathize after seeing companies ghost me after multiple rounds of interviews, worst of which is when I spends hours working nights/weekends on their take home assignments (happens a lot more when you are less experienced). What I have learned as I grown older is, everyone (companies / people) always do what's best for them, you do what's best for you (this could be different for different people). I don't make any judgements.

Exactly. And if you go in not really intending to take the job, the company still has the opportunity to sell you on it. Who knows, they might even succeed, it’s been known to happen.

Re:Layoff Runbook by 71a54xd on Tuesday April 25, 2023 @10:50AM (#35701267)
I'll always use the real thing (applying for companies I have no actual interest in working for) and get the interview practice for free. Coaching is very much a mixed bag.

It's my way of getting my wasted time back from incompetent recruiters.

Re:Layoff Runbook by Xelbair on Tuesday April 25, 2023 @02:48AM (#35697288)
>I would be annoyed as hell if someone kept asking to be interviewed but never accepted the position. Interviews aren't free, don't waste peoples time doing them if you aren't serious/need to practice. Pay for an interview coach.

Not my problem, sorry. The system is already rigged against interviewees.

Re:Layoff Runbook by 0xbadcafebee on Tuesday April 25, 2023 @11:14AM (#35701623)
If you are up front about your intentions to the interviewer, it's up to them whether they want to interview you or not. Any hiring manager worth their salt would not turn down an offer to interview a good candidate, even if they're not hiring right now. Having one or two great candidates in your back pocket is always handy. Even if that candidate isn't available when you need them, if they had a good experience with you, they'll likely refer someone to you. And, as the hiring manager, maybe you want to move somewhere else, and now you have relationships with good people at other companies. Networking is a long game; don't get annoyed, play to win!
Re:Layoff Runbook by cloudsec9 on Tuesday April 25, 2023 @03:59PM (#35705874)
And it goes both ways ... sometimes there isn't a fit, or there is a skills mismatch, or (list goes on).

I would agree that every 6 months - year you should interview for job(s) you are interested in. Once it gets to an offer, maybe it's a big increase in pay or title or whatnot, and it might make sense to move. Or, maybe it's not as enticing, and you can negotiate a bit.

Hiring and interviewing is a two way street, and in the end there are many candidates and usually just one position. Just because the one you are interviewing for isn't a fit doesn't mean you don't love the place if they have a different opening. Just let them know!