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Re:Ban on Tenure for New Faculty Hires Passes Texas Senate by uberman on Friday April 21, 2023 @05:12PM (#35660252)
Adjuncts and lecturers dont do research nor do they typically do service. If one wanted to be educated by lecturers then they could attend a community college. That is of course a viable option but no tenure will be the kiss of death to any institution who thought they were going to do research at the R1 level.
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Re:Ban on Tenure for New Faculty Hires Passes Texas Senate by giantg2 on Friday April 21, 2023 @05:25PM (#35660421)
"If one wanted to be educated by lecturers then they could attend a community college."

I'd argue that the vast majority of classes at a state school (what this rule affects) are already taught by non-research personnel.

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Re:Ban on Tenure for New Faculty Hires Passes Texas Senate by gammarator on Friday April 21, 2023 @05:38PM (#35660566)
Correct. But universities want researchers because they bring in research grants (which provide the university 50%+ in overhead: slush funds).
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Re:Ban on Tenure for New Faculty Hires Passes Texas Senate by giantg2 on Friday April 21, 2023 @05:41PM (#35660597)
It seems the state schools don't have as much incentive for that. The university president decided to build a conference center while I was at school. They didn't have all the money secured, so the state jumped in to pay a lot and tuition. Went up substantially. They're already cheap so the have no competition pressure and they know the state will bail them out.
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