Re:Weight loss relapse associated with exposure to perfluoro...
by ars on Thursday April 20, 2023 @03:48PM
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No, they are not. Glide is made from PTFE which is not the same as those described above. It's in a similar category, but not the same.
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Re:Weight loss relapse associated with exposure to perfluoro...
by tharkun__ on Thursday April 20, 2023 @04:15PM
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Err sorry but to quote Wikipedia:
Polytetrafluoroethylene (PTFE) is a synthetic fluoropolymer of tetrafluoroethylene that has numerous applications. It is one of the best-known and widely applied PFAS. The commonly known brand name of PTFE-based composition is Teflon
Remember Teflon coated pans? And how you are supposed to throw them out if they're scratched?
Re:Weight loss relapse associated with exposure to perfluoro...
by ars on Thursday April 20, 2023 @04:31PM
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I see that quote, and it's Wikipedia being overly technical. PTFE is not in the same category as the other PFAS.
PTFE is missing the reactive tail that makes the other ones so problematic. It's in the same chemical family, yes, but is very different in its properties.
> Remember Teflon coated pans?
I have plenty of them.
> And how you are supposed to throw them out if they're scratched?
That's not true now, and has never been true. (Other than perhaps the scratches making your food stick.)
Re:Weight loss relapse associated with exposure to perfluoro...
by LazyMans on Thursday April 20, 2023 @05:29PM
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Yeah, teflon is inert. You only need to throw them away once you've burned the teflon, turning it toxic. Which happens at quite a low temperature. Btw the fumes that come off a burned teflon pan are incredibly toxic and will kill pet birds.
Re:Weight loss relapse associated with exposure to perfluoro...
by clnq on Thursday April 20, 2023 @05:50PM
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Remarkably safe (for display purposes).
Re:Weight loss relapse associated with exposure to perfluoro...
by ars on Thursday April 20, 2023 @07:01PM
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You would have to heat the teflon so hot that oil in the pan would burst into flame.
If you cook in such temperatures you must like eating charcoal.
Re:Weight loss relapse associated with exposure to perfluoro...
by LazyMans on Friday April 21, 2023 @03:25PM
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I'm regularly heating pans to 650f and above for searing steaks, verified with a infrared thermometer. Also necessary for good stir fry.
You start with such high temps because unless cooking with an extremely high btu heat source, the temp of that pan drops dramatically once food is added. This is also why you don't add oil until right before placing your food item in. Otherwise, yes, even high temp oils would ignite before reaching 650f.
Re:Weight loss relapse associated with exposure to perfluoro...
by elil17 on Thursday April 20, 2023 @03:56PM
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PTFE is made using using a process that uses PFOA or another, similar fluorosurfactant. There are likely trace amounts of these fluorosurfactants left behind in the PTFE, which might be enough to cause issues.