Seagate hit with $300M penalty for selling sanctioned storage to Huawei

Re:Seagate hit with $300M penalty for selling sanctioned sto... by boringg on Thursday April 20, 2023 @09:38AM (#35639706)

Uhhhhh apples to oranges. The level of functionality on behalf of the government is completely different (being that Huawei is an arm of the PRC) making your comparison off base. Documented intel management engine…

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Re:Seagate hit with $300M penalty for selling sanctioned sto... by 2Gkashmiri on Thursday April 20, 2023 @09:48AM (#35639852)

Last I know, there is no tangible evidence linking documented backdoors in huawei network equipment. If my memory serves me right, huawei was ahead of others in 5G and american and other companies saw that as a threat and suddenly huawei equipment had unknown backdoors and suspicions.

I would be happy to be proved wrong but how does being funded or managed or owned by PRC influence anything unless there are actual backdoors?

Just because huawei is funded by PRC does that make them guilty?

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Re:Seagate hit with $300M penalty for selling sanctioned sto... by edgyquant on Thursday April 20, 2023 @10:02AM (#35640087)

When national security is at stake you can’t trust your literal greatest rival to build your infrastructure. I really don’t think people making arguments like this are being honest, they just can’t be.

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Re:Seagate hit with $300M penalty for selling sanctioned sto... by 2Gkashmiri on Thursday April 20, 2023 @09:51AM (#35639915)

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35639276

This Hn poster wrote this. So CIA is selling backdoored equipment which is fine for you?

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Re:Seagate hit with $300M penalty for selling sanctioned sto... by boringg on Thursday April 20, 2023 @10:05AM (#35640123)

Everything on that thread you linked has no credible sources.

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Re:Seagate hit with $300M penalty for selling sanctioned sto... by xxpor on Thursday April 20, 2023 @12:05PM (#35642144)

Yeah actually, I'd rather have my government doing the backdooring than a foreign one. My interests are generally more aligned with the US government's than China's.

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Re:Seagate hit with $300M penalty for selling sanctioned sto... by 2Gkashmiri on Thursday April 20, 2023 @01:10PM (#35643027)

cool.

another question.

What about someone in EU or africa or india. who should in your opinion spy on them? usa or china?

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Re:Seagate hit with $300M penalty for selling sanctioned sto... by tough on Thursday April 20, 2023 @01:27PM (#35643271)

Ideally both to be safe...

Maybe just add a third neutral participant to have three spying forces for no breaks.

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Re:Seagate hit with $300M penalty for selling sanctioned sto... by xxpor on Friday April 21, 2023 @12:26PM (#35656138)

No one ideally, but in the real world someone is going to be. It's considered basically accepted by governments, just don't get caught.

That being said, it's interesting that a lot of the China vs US heat started ramping up right when China rounded up a bunch of CIA assets in the country. It's arguable from a game theory perspective that everyone's better off with a bunch of spying so everyone knows what's really going on in a country. Transparency is usually considered good in other areas. I can't see why that wouldn't apply here.

It's also worth pointing out that by and large, it's very likely the important programs aren't spying on day to day citizens, especially as the war on terror has faded. They're just not that important, and it's riskier. It's economic, military, and political espionage.

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