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Re:Firefox may soon reject Cookie prompts automatically by unscaled on Tuesday April 18, 2023 @09:26PM (#35623102)
Third party cookies aren't the only thing that's tracking you. You can be tracked by first party cookies, local storage, your IP address, browser fingerprinting and other techniques. GDPR requires websites to get your explicit consent for any kind of tracking.

A lot of users are already blocking third party cookies and that's the default in Safari and Chrome nowadays - but ad companies have moved on.

Re:Firefox may soon reject Cookie prompts automatically by calvinmorrison on Tuesday April 18, 2023 @10:12PM (#35623437)
I don't get it. A public site is like a public store. Do you have the expectation of privacy in a store? No not really. And be sure stores do track you.
Re:Firefox may soon reject Cookie prompts automatically by iudqnolq on Tuesday April 18, 2023 @10:31PM (#35623582)
Some of us think a browser acts as a User Agent. It's supposed to be on our side, not the side of the website.

(Under your analogy maybe the store is putting a beacon in my pocket.)

Re:Firefox may soon reject Cookie prompts automatically by calvinmorrison on Tuesday April 18, 2023 @10:46PM (#35623677)
In this case the agent would be well a literal agent. Nobody is requiring your agent to walk around and advertise who you are, to accept every cookie or display an advert on its shirt while walking around the store for you
Re:Firefox may soon reject Cookie prompts automatically by akvadrako on Wednesday April 19, 2023 @01:41AM (#35624636)
GPDR also applies to physical stores, not just the internet.
Re:Firefox may soon reject Cookie prompts automatically by CaptainZapp on Wednesday April 19, 2023 @02:28AM (#35624911)
I have the expectation that when I enter a store that the store keeper doesn't sic his minions to sniff after me while I browse other stores and for good measure maybe peeks into my bedroom.

Physical stores don't do that and therefore your analogy breaks down.

Re:Firefox may soon reject Cookie prompts automatically by rrobukef on Wednesday April 19, 2023 @05:29AM (#35626144)
They do put electronic advertising screens in front that collect "anonymous" mac addresses. They also put trackers inside the shopping carts to follow you inside the store. The client-card you use during checkout records your name, address and spending habits.

They don't need to sic a minion to sniff after you. The implication of buying condoms and then visiting the hotel only requires to correlate three tables.

Re:Firefox may soon reject Cookie prompts automatically by Symbiote on Wednesday April 19, 2023 @05:48AM (#35626249)
Those advertising screens aren't necessarily compliant with the GDPR.

https://techgdpr.com/blog/wifi-tracking-retail-analytics-gdp... has some background.

https://www.spring-board.info/differences-between-geo-wifi-f... is from a British company which claims to do compliant tracking in shopping centres etc.

Re:Firefox may soon reject Cookie prompts automatically by CaptainZapp on Wednesday April 19, 2023 @09:05AM (#35627646)
> The client-card you use during checkout records your name, address and spending habits.

There's a very good reason why I don't have any such client card and will never apply for one.

The store can track your purchases down to the line item if you use one of those. I vehemently disagree with that.

Also, I pay mostly with cash.

Re:Firefox may soon reject Cookie prompts automatically by camgunz on Wednesday April 19, 2023 @04:31AM (#35625798)
For your analogy to be more accurate, any store I walk into would have the ability to look at my behavior in every store, essentially in perpetuity, and share/sell that information. Feels like something you should at least have to opt into.
Re:Firefox may soon reject Cookie prompts automatically by calvinmorrison on Wednesday April 19, 2023 @08:44AM (#35627432)
Yes that how Visa and other companies make boatloads of cash selling your data
Re:Firefox may soon reject Cookie prompts automatically by camgunz on Wednesday April 19, 2023 @10:47AM (#35628812)
Visa only tracks purchases. Surveillance ad tech can track literally everything your browser is doing. Did you go to Reddit today, what subreddit, what posts, who did you reply to, etc. Or, did you visit a porn site today, or a dissident political site, or a marketplace for abortion drugs that are illegal in your state. There is no meatspace analog; the comparison is absurd.
Re:Firefox may soon reject Cookie prompts automatically by calvinmorrison on Wednesday April 19, 2023 @12:44PM (#35630341)
Visa tracks did you purchase porn, did you buy something from Infowars.com, did you buy abortion pills, etc. That's only one source for data that advertisers use in the physical world. You think that's a big difference?
Re:Firefox may soon reject Cookie prompts automatically by camgunz on Wednesday April 19, 2023 @03:40PM (#35632396)
Yeah I think there's a huge difference between what I buy with a credit card and what I look at on the internet.
Re:Firefox may soon reject Cookie prompts automatically by MereInterest on Wednesday April 19, 2023 @08:46AM (#35627457)
> Do you have the expectation of privacy in a store?

Yes, absolutely. I don't have an expectation of having as much privacy as I do when in a private residence with the blinds closed, but I do have an expectation of some forms of privacy.

* The store will not perform a full strip-search of my person upon entering.

* The store will not place a GPS tracker on me as I leave, to determine where I live.

* The store will not have a team of employees with clipboards follow me at all times, making notes of my location within the store.

* The store will not keep a record of my eye movements, correlated against which products are being glanced at.

The problem is that, as technology has advanced, some forms of privacy that used to be protected by impracticality of implementation no longer have that protection. For example:

* The store will keep video record of my visit for a few weeks at the most.

* The store will not analyze video records outside of suspected shoplifting.

* Record of previous purchases is limited to the cashier's memory.

Privacy is not a binary yes/no decision. As technology improves, forms of privacy that were previously protected by limitations of implementation must be protected through other means.