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Re:How Much Can Duolingo Teach Us? by hombre_fatal on Tuesday April 18, 2023 @04:00PM (#35619222)
Besides, you’d have to evaluate them on the skills they were practicing which is mostly reading on Duolingo.

You can easily end up dismissing someone’s language skills who can read the news and even books in a language yet can’t speak the language.

Re:How Much Can Duolingo Teach Us? by cranky908canuck on Tuesday April 18, 2023 @07:54PM (#35622215)
Agreed on this. One of the courses that I took (that didn't achieve the goal) was 'Reading Knowledge of $language'. The textbook said at the outset words to the effect of "To be fluent in $language and operate in that society takes years of study and immersion. This (book/course) is for those with less ambitious objectives, and less time to achieve them".

I'd say that simply being able to read the Francophone news (this is Canada) would give a very different interpretation of how things are seen politically. Total mastery (able to pass for a native speaker) isn't the only valid outcome.