News for hackers. Stuff that matters.

A comment on Europe’s Ariane 6 rocket is turning into a space policy disaster. Parent comment

Re:Europe’s Ariane 6 rocket is turning into a space policy d... by kramerger on Tuesday April 18, 2023 @02:15PM (#35617688)
Hard for me to judge spacex, but I know Tesla is second to last in reliability (at place 27, only better than Lincoln). Let me quote from the report:

    "Model Y still has body hardware issues with the tailgate and door alignment, paint defects, and multiple other problems. The Model X and Model S have body hardware, climate system, and in-car electronics problems. All three models are well below average."
Maybe, an unstable slave driver who just wasted 44B because he couldn't keep his mouth shut is not the best leader for anything that requires long term care??
[ Parent | on HN ]
Re:Europe’s Ariane 6 rocket is turning into a space policy d... by mensetmanusman on Tuesday April 18, 2023 @10:30PM (#35623573)
There is an all electric Lincoln?
[ Parent | on HN ]
Re:Europe’s Ariane 6 rocket is turning into a space policy d... by panick21_ on Wednesday April 19, 2023 @11:37PM (#35636078)
If you invoke a report, how about actually providing the report? Because I think this wasn't a report about reliability at all. Paint defects have nothing to do with reliability for example.

If its the report I'm thinking about, the difference between Tesla and their competitors isn't actually all that great. Not to mention this report is already a few years on.

Also, this report only evaluated Model Y from California, China, Berlin and Austin have better reputation for quality.

Model Y is the most sold car in the world both by volume and revenue in Q1 2023. I don't know about you but if I can choose between some 'report' and being car that makes the most money of any car on the planet, I know what I would choice.

Its a bit ridiculous to say 'haha you loser your 27 in some random report' and ignore that Tesla is both growing very fast an is highly profitable. Call me crazy but I thought those things were important.

Musk really is the only person where people have to make up these ridiculous arguments to somehow justify that he is an insane madman, despite his companies being incredibly successful.

> not the best leader for anything that requires long term care??

He is the longest serving CEO in the car and the space industry. He is literally known for having a long term view and both of his major companies have seen incredibly growth for 20+ years. Like 2 decades isn't long term enough for you?

I get that people dislike Musk, he isn't very likeable, but some basic logic needs to be applied when criticizing.

[ Parent | on HN ]
Re:Europe’s Ariane 6 rocket is turning into a space policy d... by kramerger on Thursday April 20, 2023 @02:06AM (#35636913)
Consumer Report is paywalled, how about an extract (1) and another from a previous survey (2). What about a video from a new customer (3).

Are those enough sources for you?

(1) https://insideevs.com/news/549130/consumerreports-tesla-reli...

(2) https://insideevs.com/news/489178/tesla-bombs-jd-powers-depe...

(3) https://www.reddit.com/r/Wellthatsucks/comments/zni97u/140k_...

[ Parent | on HN ]
Re:Europe’s Ariane 6 rocket is turning into a space policy d... by panick21_ on Thursday April 20, 2023 @07:17PM (#35647818)
I have seen these reports, I just ask that you provide sources on principle and so other people can see them.

Of course there are other studies:

https://insideevs.com/features/481518/tesla-wins-jd-power-ev...

or

https://insideevs.com/news/626814/tesla-nissan-consumer-repo...

or

https://www.jdpower.com/business/press-releases/2023-us-vehi...

In this study Tesla is better then Audi and Ford, on level with Mercedes Benz.

I think pretty much most companies on the plant would be happy with a CEO that produces:

https://www.statista.com/chart/26705/yearly-net-income-and-r...

Seems to me, pretty successfully in the long term, from 2008 to 2023 is literally longer then any other automotive CEO.

But I guess they were 27th in some study so he must be an incompetent idiot incapable of planning. Tesla just magically grew by 100x.

[ Parent | on HN ]
Re:Europe’s Ariane 6 rocket is turning into a space policy d... by kramerger on Friday April 21, 2023 @10:41AM (#35654470)
Wow.

What do you think about the video I linked to?

[ Parent | on HN ]