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Re:OpenAI’s CEO Says the Age of Giant AI Models Is Already Over by bhouston on Monday April 17, 2023 @08:04PM (#35608295)
I suspect you are right. We may be stuck at the gpt4 sizes for a bit just because of hardware costs though. As they get bigger it costs too much to run them until our hardware becomes more optimal for these large models at 4 bits or so.

I think the YouTube videos is going to be the next big training set. A transformer trained on all text and all of YouTube will be killer amazing at so much. I bet it can understand locomotion and balance and body control from YouTube.

I wonder if TPUs, like Google's Tensor chip, will beat out GPUs when it comes to image/video based training?

Re:OpenAI’s CEO Says the Age of Giant AI Models Is Already Over by TaylorAlexander on Monday April 17, 2023 @09:45PM (#35608986)
> I wonder if TPUs, like Google's Tensor chip, will beat out GPUs when it comes to image/video based training?

One of the OpenAI guys was talking about this. He said the specific technology does not matter, it is just a cost line item. They don't need to have the best chip tech available as long as they have enough money.

That said I am curious if anyone else can really comment on this. It seems like as we get to very large and expensive models we will produce more and more specialized technology.

Re:OpenAI’s CEO Says the Age of Giant AI Models Is Already Over by daydream on Monday April 17, 2023 @10:14PM (#35609169)
Whether or not cost matters much depends on your perspective.

If you’re OpenAI and GPT4 is just a step on the way to AGI, and you can amortize that huge cost over the hundreds of millions in revenue you’re gonna pull in from subscriptions and API use… then sure you’re probably not very cost sensitive. It could be 20% cheaper or 50% more expensive, whatever, it’s so good your customers will use it at a wide range of costs. And you have truckloads of money from Microsoft anyways.

If you’re a company or a developer trying to build a feature, whole new product, or an entire company on top of GPT then that cost matters a whole lot. The difference between $0.06 and $0.006 per turn could be infeasible vs. shippable.

If you’re trying to compete with OpenAI then you’re probably doing everything possible to reduce that training cost.

So, whether or not it matters - it really depends.

Re:OpenAI’s CEO Says the Age of Giant AI Models Is Already Over by TaylorAlexander on Monday April 17, 2023 @10:31PM (#35609281)
Totally true.
Re:OpenAI’s CEO Says the Age of Giant AI Models Is Already Over by bhouston on Monday April 17, 2023 @09:48PM (#35609019)
> They don't need to have the best chip tech available as long as they have enough money.

That sounds like someone who is "Blitzscaling." Costs do not matter in those cases, just acquiring customers and marketshare. But for the rest of us, who will see benefits but are not trying to win a $100B market, we will cost optimize.

Re:OpenAI’s CEO Says the Age of Giant AI Models Is Already Over by TaylorAlexander on Monday April 17, 2023 @10:03PM (#35609123)
Yes, agreed. I would like to run large models at home without serious expense.
Re:OpenAI’s CEO Says the Age of Giant AI Models Is Already Over by nmfisher on Tuesday April 18, 2023 @03:08AM (#35610888)
Maybe it's just a line item to them, but it's pretty relevant to anyone operating with a less-than-gargantuan budget. If a superior/affordable chip is widely available, OpenAI's competitive advantage recedes rapidly because suddenly everyone else can do what they can. To some extent that's exactly what happened with DALL-E/StableDiffusion.

assuming it's not horizontally scalable, because otherwise they would just out-spend everyone else anyway like they've already done. That's a big "if", though.

Re:OpenAI’s CEO Says the Age of Giant AI Models Is Already Over by blibble on Monday April 17, 2023 @10:06PM (#35609131)
> A transformer trained on all text and all of YouTube will be killer amazing at so much.

ah yes, a bot where the answer to everything is to buy ridge wallets and play raid shadow legends

Re:OpenAI’s CEO Says the Age of Giant AI Models Is Already Over by swyx on Monday April 17, 2023 @10:24PM (#35609245)
inaccurate, how will I watch Netflix in foreign countries without Nord VPN?
Re:OpenAI’s CEO Says the Age of Giant AI Models Is Already Over by cachvico on Monday April 17, 2023 @11:23PM (#35609609)
They'll give it the premium tier at least
Re:OpenAI’s CEO Says the Age of Giant AI Models Is Already Over by SimbaOnSteroids on Monday April 17, 2023 @11:33PM (#35609666)
Premium won't save you from Raid Shadow Legends. I don't know how but they'll put ads in your dreams if you're not careful.
Re:OpenAI’s CEO Says the Age of Giant AI Models Is Already Over by snowe2010 on Tuesday April 18, 2023 @02:27AM (#35610606)
They need to make sure to install sponsorblock for gpt and then it should be fine.
Re:OpenAI’s CEO Says the Age of Giant AI Models Is Already Over by heavyset_go on Monday April 17, 2023 @11:37PM (#35609687)
It took a year's worth of a small nation's energy expenditure to train and all it does is tell you how Raycon earbuds will change your life.
Re:OpenAI’s CEO Says the Age of Giant AI Models Is Already Over by hn_go_brrrrr on Tuesday April 18, 2023 @04:15AM (#35611334)
I have never been so pleased to not get any of these references.
Re:OpenAI’s CEO Says the Age of Giant AI Models Is Already Over by okwhateverdude on Tuesday April 18, 2023 @06:56AM (#35612302)
NewPipe/Freetube/Invidious instances + SponsorBlock API support is really great at filtering all of these useless advertising memes. Somehow ($$$) the behavior of TV adverts culture seeped into YouTube. I've not watched broadcast/cable TV in years, but when I interact with people that do, inevitably, they make similar references. It's super weird.
Re:OpenAI’s CEO Says the Age of Giant AI Models Is Already Over by nerdix on Tuesday April 18, 2023 @10:00AM (#35614142)
Wait...

You can auto skip the in-video sponsor ads?

Re:OpenAI’s CEO Says the Age of Giant AI Models Is Already Over by okwhateverdude on Tuesday April 18, 2023 @01:08PM (#35616773)
Yeah, SponsorBlock (https://sponsor.ajay.app/) is crowdsourced data for the in-video ads. Weirdly enough, I've never contributed timestamps, but the vast majority of the content I watch has submitted timestamps. I support a bunch of creators on patreon, but very much disagree with their double dipping.
Re:OpenAI’s CEO Says the Age of Giant AI Models Is Already Over by jaidhyani on Tuesday April 18, 2023 @12:17AM (#35609902)
GPT-LikeSubscribeAndRingThatBell
Re:OpenAI’s CEO Says the Age of Giant AI Models Is Already Over by travisjungroth on Tuesday April 18, 2023 @02:28AM (#35610624)
Whisper will frequently turn an empty audio file into “thanks for watching”.
Re:OpenAI’s CEO Says the Age of Giant AI Models Is Already Over by jaidhyani on Thursday April 20, 2023 @12:07PM (#35642179)
This is a weird future.
Re:OpenAI’s CEO Says the Age of Giant AI Models Is Already Over by spaceman_2020 on Tuesday April 18, 2023 @03:16AM (#35610943)
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