Re:OpenAI’s CEO Says the Age of Giant AI Models Is Already Over
by mensetmanusman on Monday April 17, 2023 @06:51PM
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Better on which axis? Do you want an AI that takes one hour to respond to? Some would for certain fields, but getting something fast and cheap is going to be hard now that Moore’s law is over.
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Re:OpenAI’s CEO Says the Age of Giant AI Models Is Already Over
by AlecSchueler on Monday April 17, 2023 @07:05PM
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Don't we all agree that GPT4 is "better" than GPT3? How are we evaluating that if the axis is such a mystery. Yeah maybe we can't quantify it like I can't tell you one writer is better than another in a quantitative but we can both still read their work and come to an understanding.
Re:OpenAI’s CEO Says the Age of Giant AI Models Is Already Over
by nwlieb on Monday April 17, 2023 @07:29PM
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The runtime is quadratic for a given context size, although it seems like there is some progress on this front https://gwern.net/note/attention
Re:OpenAI’s CEO Says the Age of Giant AI Models Is Already Over
by MichaelZuo on Monday April 17, 2023 @09:41PM
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Exponential scaling for a presumable GPT-5 suggests it's response time will be unusably long for the vast majority of use cases, and probably cost multiple dollars USD per query.
Not to mention there doesn't actually exist enough English text data in the world to even double GPT-4's training set.
Re:OpenAI’s CEO Says the Age of Giant AI Models Is Already Over
by epups on Monday April 17, 2023 @09:57PM
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Compute will also scale exponentially in coming years. The data source limitation seems to be a harder barrier, I think many companies are experimenting with AI generated content for training at this point.
Re:OpenAI’s CEO Says the Age of Giant AI Models Is Already Over
by MichaelZuo on Monday April 17, 2023 @10:45PM
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> Compute will also scale exponentially in coming years.
Cost per transistor scaling has already plateaued or perhaps even inverted with TSMC's latest and greatest.
And the new chips, even after 25 layers of EUV lithography, more than doubling the previous record, and an extra year of fine tuning, has total SRAM size scaling of -5% and logic scaling of -42%.
These are numbers verified by experienced semi people.
Re:OpenAI’s CEO Says the Age of Giant AI Models Is Already Over
by darkerside on Monday April 17, 2023 @08:49PM
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INSUFFICIENT DATA FOR MEANINGFUL ANSWER
Re:OpenAI’s CEO Says the Age of Giant AI Models Is Already Over
by prenoob on Tuesday April 18, 2023 @01:54PM
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I wasnt aware that it was his favorite story, thanks for posting it
Re:OpenAI’s CEO Says the Age of Giant AI Models Is Already Over
by zirgs on Tuesday April 18, 2023 @05:48AM
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Yes - image generation AIs also take longer to generate higher resolution pictures.
I'd rather have a LLM that thinks a bit longer than a LLM that spits out wrong answers immediately.
Re:OpenAI’s CEO Says the Age of Giant AI Models Is Already Over
by fauxpause_ on Tuesday April 18, 2023 @09:43AM
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Idk. I’m not the one making the claim we’ve already nailed the optimal point though.