Windows 8′s next victim: Microsoft kills the Start button

Re:Windows 8′s next victim: Microsoft kills the Start button by bo1024 on Monday February 06, 2012 @01:12PM (#3558468)

> and I'm sure it Win8/Metro will be sweet on tablets

Exactly. The hot trend right now is to throw desktop aesthetics and performance out the window and just build products for small touchscreens.

Dumb.

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Re:Windows 8′s next victim: Microsoft kills the Start button by kijin on Monday February 06, 2012 @01:18PM (#3558498)

They will learn that it was a dumb move when corporate customers with hundreds of thousands of installations refuse to upgrade because the eye candy does nothing to improve productivity on their (obviously non-touchscreen) workstations. Coming Soon: Windows 9 Business Edition with the Classic keyboard-and-mouse UI.

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Re:Windows 8′s next victim: Microsoft kills the Start button by Luyt on Monday February 06, 2012 @01:59PM (#3558685)

I also hope KDE5 will be more like KDE3 than KDE4.

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Re:Windows 8′s next victim: Microsoft kills the Start button by ChrisNorstrom on Monday February 06, 2012 @03:03PM (#3558942)

As soon as I "experienced" unity I RAN to gnome, screamed in horror, then ran to KDE and just cried a bit to myself. What the hell is happening to linux? Ever since the nearing of Steve Jobs' decline & death it's like every amateur designer in the world's been tyring to take his place.

They're all trying to mimick his vision and design but without understanding it at all. I think this is why we keep ending up with all these heartless, sterile, Kindergarden UI designs.

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Re:Windows 8′s next victim: Microsoft kills the Start button by kijin on Monday February 06, 2012 @04:08PM (#3559193)

Try XFCE. Linus Torvalds said he uses it.

Meanwhile, KDE isn't all that bad nowadays. I actually kinda like KDE 4.8, it's come a long way since the early days of KDE 4.

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Re:Windows 8′s next victim: Microsoft kills the Start button by bo1024 on Monday February 06, 2012 @04:28PM (#3559265)

Mint is still using Gnome 2, or I think there is a new fork of it named something else.

I agree though, although I blame the shift mainly on the tablet/smartphone mentality.

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Re:Windows 8′s next victim: Microsoft kills the Start button by rdrake on Monday February 06, 2012 @04:50PM (#3559351)

Mint is using a Gnome 3 fork called Cinnamon.

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Re:Windows 8′s next victim: Microsoft kills the Start button by ChrisNorstrom on Monday February 06, 2012 @02:47PM (#3558882)

EDIT: I am referring to the dumbing down, over simplification, extreme minimalization, and looks over usability of next generation UIs in general. NOT to Window's entire "Metro UI".

From this day forward we shall call this abomination "Kindergarden UI".

Example: Tom: "Hey how's Windows 8 compared to Ubuntu?". Stacy: "Oh they're both going to shit, they've got kindergarden UI now."

I wish Microsoft would realize that Windows is NOT OSX. In their desperate attempt to fabricate a Windows Cult following and "it just works" culture they're going to end up destroying the very thing that made windows what it is.

I tried unsuccessfully to convert to mac a few years ago, and numerous times to convert to linux. In my perticular situation, my linux installs have less stability than my windows 7 installation. After all trialing 10+ operating systems over the last 7 years I realized: I love Windows, it's Microsoft I hate.

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Re:Windows 8′s next victim: Microsoft kills the Start button by freehunter on Monday February 06, 2012 @03:00PM (#3558928)

From this day forward I shall call people who tell others what to think "doomsayers". Judging a UI before you can actually try a working, functional version of it and then espousing that ignorance to others is just asinine. Even worse if you've tried it and hated it just because it's different.

"Kindergarden UI" is a ridiculous term, and very subjective. I really hope no one actually takes your advice on anything.

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Re:Windows 8′s next victim: Microsoft kills the Start button by ChrisNorstrom on Monday February 06, 2012 @03:17PM (#3559008)

From this day forward I shall call people who tell others what to think "doomsayers".

But freehunter, I'm just trying to mimic Steve Jobs like the other designers :(

Naa, miscommunication here. I try out a new linux flavor almost twice a year. I tried out the Windows 8 preview. I kept my mac around for months when I was trying that out. I LOVE different, I love simple. What I don't love is "minimalization without understanding what needs to be minimalized".

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Re:Windows 8′s next victim: Microsoft kills the Start button by freehunter on Monday February 06, 2012 @03:23PM (#3559028)

I apologize if there was a misunderstanding. There's a lot of hate for change, especially in this thread. Metro UI might not be the best, but the desktop is a tired metaphor that wore out its usefulness after Windows 98. I welcome UI changes with an open heart and an open mind. I'm willing to hear them out (which I got burned on by Canonical when I began using Unity and it didn't get better).

I may have jumped to conclusions with your post, but you must admit there was no obvious sign of open-thinking ;)

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Re:Windows 8′s next victim: Microsoft kills the Start button by drzaiusapelord on Monday February 06, 2012 @03:53PM (#3559142)

Well, the preview of Win8 showed that you can switch between Metro and the classic desktop. When I deploy Win8 to my users, it'll be locked to the desktop mode. Metro will be a netbook/tablet/embed only thing.

Don't take the complete fail that Unity is and apply it to this situation. Shuttleworth has no big corporate customers he needs to cater to. Those that don't like unity can figure out how to install Gnome or LXDE or whatever. Windows on the other hand will have both options ready to go from day one with an ease of a click. MS knows who butters their bread: corporate clients.

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