AI Will Never Be Conscious, but It Exudes Our Consciousness

Re:AI Will Never Be Conscious, but It Exudes Our Consciousness by ryanklee on Saturday April 15, 2023 @09:49AM (#35580616)

Thousands of years of thinking about these issues, decades coming to hard grips with how little we understand, and LLMs drop like an atom bomb waking up every idiot on the planet who has naive things to say about consciousness. What's the motivation to talk so loudly and confidently about things one knows nearly nothing about?

Edit: I regret using the word "idiot" above. Nothing against the author's intelligence. Poor choice of words on my part. Naively presumptuous is closer to the mark.

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Re:AI Will Never Be Conscious, but It Exudes Our Consciousness by frebord on Saturday April 15, 2023 @10:29AM (#35580931)

I don't think the use of the word 'idiot' was great by itself, it should have been 'arrogant idiot'

"This is a classic case of Scientism (The opinion that science and the scientific method are the best or only way to render truth about the world and reality.)"

He more or less claims that consciousness is outside the realm of human understanding, but also then mentions the millennia of study by scholars about consciousness has found the real truth about consciousness.

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Re:AI Will Never Be Conscious, but It Exudes Our Consciousness by messe on Saturday April 15, 2023 @10:08AM (#35580751)

What astounds me is the sheer arrogance of it. The assumption that only humans can be imbued with consciousness, because of... what, exactly? Self-reflection and the rejection of the scientific method?

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Re:AI Will Never Be Conscious, but It Exudes Our Consciousness by Kim_Bruning on Saturday April 15, 2023 @12:07PM (#35581905)

I'm pretty sure there's many species with consciousness. Of course the discussion of consciousness in general is one big mess, imho. :-/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animal_consciousness

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Re:AI Will Never Be Conscious, but It Exudes Our Consciousness by ChatGTP on Sunday April 16, 2023 @09:47AM (#35589998)

Animals are conscious, this isn't even debatable.

Point a weapon at an animal (for example, please don't really) and you'll immediately witness its self-awareness and some how even know that you're pointing a weapon at it.

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Re:AI Will Never Be Conscious, but It Exudes Our Consciousness by arisAlexis on Saturday April 15, 2023 @10:00AM (#35580706)

Just saw I wrote the same comment using the same storng wording. Sometimes it's warranted :)

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