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Re:Chipotle plans to ditch gas grills at 100 new locations by replygirl on Thursday April 13, 2023 @07:24PM (#35563537)
> more efficient than gas

if there's anywhere waste should be permissible, it's how people prepare their food. for defenses of that i'd refer to arguments in favor of waste in the medical system that address quality of care and outcomes

> more control over heat

with gas, i choose how far the pan is from the heat source, and i know how much energy is coming out of the burner no matter what stove i'm using because i can look at the flames

> gas distribution pipes leak

when the gas goes out, which mine never has, i can cook with the toaster oven and heat my home with space heaters. when the power goes out, as it does a few times a year, i can cook with the stove and heat my home with the furnace

Re:Chipotle plans to ditch gas grills at 100 new locations by PaulDavisThe1st on Thursday April 13, 2023 @07:32PM (#35563606)
> i can look at the flames

Samsung and other nice induction units have a visual indicator that while a bit silly from some perspectives, replaces looking at the flames.

https://www.google.com/search?q=samsung+induction+flame+indi...

Re:Chipotle plans to ditch gas grills at 100 new locations by LargoLasskhyfv on Thursday April 13, 2023 @08:17PM (#35563968)
Still too indirect. Why not having 3 7-segments showing degrees Celsius or even fucking Fahrenheit in steps of 10°?

No guessing. No experience required. Just measured. Done.

Re:Chipotle plans to ditch gas grills at 100 new locations by PaulDavisThe1st on Thursday April 13, 2023 @08:40PM (#35564140)
Flames don't show you temperature. You have to learn what the flame level means. You likely learned this so long ago you've forgotten how much work that takes.
Re:Chipotle plans to ditch gas grills at 100 new locations by LargoLasskhyfv on Thursday April 13, 2023 @08:47PM (#35564207)
Yes. That's what I said. Therefore 3 7-segment LEDs showing the temperature :-)

These old-fashioned things https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven-segment_display , you know?

One could possibly overengineer it by showing the chosen temperature in red, and the actual temperature in blue, or something.

From personal experience this is unnecessary, as evidenced by water boiling at 100°C, starting to have a few small bubbles/sparkles at 90°C, and none of that at 80°C.

Re:Chipotle plans to ditch gas grills at 100 new locations by PaulDavisThe1st on Thursday April 13, 2023 @11:21PM (#35565164)
Sorry for misunderstanding you.

Very few people cook with temperature as part of the process (stove top, anyway).

Re:Chipotle plans to ditch gas grills at 100 new locations by LargoLasskhyfv on Friday April 14, 2023 @08:51AM (#35568982)
No need to be ;-) These old-fashioned things were 'new' for me, too. About a decade ago, when I had my first induction cooking experience.

But nerd that I am, one of the first things I tried was that bubble check until boiling, and how exact the display is. Since that time I'm considering any other method obsolete. Power in Watts? Useless. Some arbitrarily chosen steps? Useless. Temperature, sight and smell it is!

Re:Chipotle plans to ditch gas grills at 100 new locations by PaulDavisThe1st on Friday April 14, 2023 @09:39AM (#35569459)
Actually, I'd argue there's another option, which is the I use 75% of the time with a gas stove and 100% time of with any form of electric stove (except the Samsung-style induction units I mentioned).

Step 1: believe that the controls are consistent and reasonably accurate Step 2: learn what control setting corresponds to what level of heat

The biggest problem with this method is that it can take a while (for me, perhaps on the order of a year or two). At this point, with my current gas range, I don't need to look at the flame - I know that half-way between "medium" and "medium-low" is just what I need for the current cooking task.

Re:Chipotle plans to ditch gas grills at 100 new locations by replygirl on Friday April 14, 2023 @05:36PM (#35575108)
this is really cool! i'd still prefer gas for _control_ over the heat, but if this is mapped well enough i could see it working as a temp readout. though i have little faith this would be mapped well