The cognitive dissonance here is becoming farcical quickly. Careful, people really don't like it when you point it out!

I was really hoping the grandparent was being tongue-in-cheek but, the lie-to-myself kind of hope.

I'm confused, what's your point? It's a "win" that this killing was by a certain person?

Has nothing to do with shit on the streets, etc. etc.

No, it's a win that poor people (most of whom are not violent criminals) are not being unfairly proxy-blamed for this murder any more.

They commit the vast majority of crime and problems, literally the dredges of society lol

Here's how the cycle works. We decide a certain group of people ("literally the dregs [sic] of society") causes most of our problems. Then we pass laws targeting that group, and enforce the laws most strictly against against that group — and surprise, that group ends up getting caught breaking the law most often! Then we use that to drum up further public sentiment against that group. Rinse, repeat.

Crime is a social construct. We choose what's illegal and what's not. We enforce some of the laws, against some of the people, some of the time. Saying that a certain group commits the vast majority of crimes is meaningless without additional context. And if your additional context is that they're "literally the dregs of society", you're not being serious — you just have an axe to grind.

Hard disagree, people are responsible for themselves. Sure society can suck, but ultimately rising out of that is your problem.

See: like, everyone's history?

> Saying that a certain group commits the vast majority of crimes is meaningless without additional context.

are there poor people who totally deserve it? is it the majority of them?

This doesn't absolve the homeless of being a drain on the city.

The citizens of a city are the citizens, not a drain.

A city that considers its citizens a "drain" has optimized for something other than being a city.

People living on the street are not citizens.

Definitionally untrue.

What the hell? Losing your home makes you a non-citizen? Were you ironic?

I may have missed that one or didn't think of the question yet.