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Re:Animal Sex Determination Is Weirder Than You Think by psychphysic on Thursday April 13, 2023 @09:06AM (#35554808)
I hear this reasoning often but never see it being applied in practice.

For starters why are single sex sports and single sex changing rooms so controversial?

Similarly if gender and sex are entirely distinct. Does that not mean that the trans community is the strongest supporter of traditional gender roles? Afterall what does it mean to change gender if differing social attitudes to gender ought be extinguished?

Re:Animal Sex Determination Is Weirder Than You Think by cantSpellSober on Thursday April 13, 2023 @09:12AM (#35554887)
Locker rooms? You see these exact talking points copy and pasted a lot, do they relate to this specific article?
Re:Animal Sex Determination Is Weirder Than You Think by psychphysic on Thursday April 13, 2023 @09:16AM (#35554952)
The article brings it up quite early on.

It's introduction and parallel with sex means the article makes a wider point about a difference between sex and gender. I agree this article could have been written better without any mention of gender so as to avoid making an out of scope claim in a pop sci article.

Re:Animal Sex Determination Is Weirder Than You Think by cantSpellSober on Thursday April 13, 2023 @09:22AM (#35555039)
Where does it mention locker rooms or "the trans community is the strongest supporter of traditional gender roles?" Did you read the article?
Re:Animal Sex Determination Is Weirder Than You Think by seti0Cha on Thursday April 13, 2023 @09:21AM (#35555030)
Please stop using the "that's a talking point of the enemy" dismissal tactic. It's lazy and harmful to actual discussion.
Re:Animal Sex Determination Is Weirder Than You Think by cantSpellSober on Thursday April 13, 2023 @09:24AM (#35555070)
I didn't, stop paraphrasing me, it's lazy and harmful to actual discussion. I pointed out why it's irrelevant.
Re:Animal Sex Determination Is Weirder Than You Think by gatlin on Thursday April 13, 2023 @10:04AM (#35555633)
You asked a pointed question.
Re:Animal Sex Determination Is Weirder Than You Think by tekla on Thursday April 13, 2023 @09:18AM (#35554981)
>For starters why are single sex sports and single sex changing rooms so controversial?

It denies the different "gender roles"

> Does that not mean that the trans community is the strongest supporter of traditional gender roles?

Um yes? That's been a sticking point for quite a while.

Re:Animal Sex Determination Is Weirder Than You Think by mantas on Thursday April 13, 2023 @10:01AM (#35555593)
> For starters why are single sex sports and single sex changing rooms so controversial?

Because men are much stronger physically due to genetical differences. Just check out top records in various sports.

Re:Animal Sex Determination Is Weirder Than You Think by paulddraper on Thursday April 13, 2023 @02:42PM (#35560132)
You're in violent agreement.
Re:Animal Sex Determination Is Weirder Than You Think by ptring on Thursday April 13, 2023 @08:30PM (#35564075)
I think you may enjoy this classic text on the topic, it explores these questions in quite some detail: https://janiceraymond.com/the-transsexual-empire

(That page has a link to download the PDF if you're interested, but also here's a taster in the form of a book review at the time it was published: https://www.nytimes.com/1979/06/10/archives/male-and-female-....)

Re:Animal Sex Determination Is Weirder Than You Think by throwaway675309 on Friday April 14, 2023 @12:36AM (#35565571)
Seriously? If you have single sex sports, then there's a disproportionate representation among the sexes. If you can only televise the top 100 athletes in a given sport how many of that percentage do you think will be male versus female?