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Re:NPR quits Twitter after being falsely labeled as 'state-a... by vuln on Wednesday April 12, 2023 @03:36PM (#35545520)
> the only reason why this story was blown up as much as it was was because it was used to damage his father politically, not because there was anything of substance there.

Have you reviewed all of the information contained on said laptop? How can you state an opinion and present it as a fact? Do you have any data or evidence that the data contained within the laptop was compromised or had “lack of substance?”

Re:NPR quits Twitter after being falsely labeled as 'state-a... by jacquesm on Wednesday April 12, 2023 @03:37PM (#35545543)
> Have you reviewed all of the information contained on said laptop?

This is not a productive discussion I think so you're going to have to talk to yourself.

Re:NPR quits Twitter after being falsely labeled as 'state-a... by vuln on Wednesday April 12, 2023 @03:42PM (#35545630)
Right you haven’t. You present your opinion as fact as you have throughout this thread. I’d ask that YOU please stop pushing your opinion as fact when it is just your opinion.
Re:NPR quits Twitter after being falsely labeled as 'state-a... by frumper on Wednesday April 12, 2023 @04:00PM (#35545897)
To be fair, that's pretty much what Terence Samuels did and he stands behind him.
Re:NPR quits Twitter after being falsely labeled as 'state-a... by vuln on Wednesday April 12, 2023 @05:24PM (#35547172)
Re:NPR quits Twitter after being falsely labeled as 'state-a... by jacquesm on Wednesday April 12, 2023 @06:10PM (#35547728)
Haha, that mentions Trump and Kavanaugh... maybe not the reference you were looking for?
Re:NPR quits Twitter after being falsely labeled as 'state-a... by fortuna86 on Wednesday April 12, 2023 @09:24PM (#35549609)
The burden of proof justifying posting stolen materials from the laptop belonging to the family member of a politician is not on the person asking if this is in bounds, it is on the person defending obvious muckraking.
Re:NPR quits Twitter after being falsely labeled as 'state-a... by dpkonofa on Thursday April 13, 2023 @01:05PM (#35558596)
The people making the claims about the laptop are the ones that need to provide evidence. To date, nothing of substance has been released from the laptop (which has supposedly been in the possession of the parties making the claims for at least 3 years) that validates any of the claims that have been made about the laptop, Hunter Biden, or Joe Biden.

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof.

Re:NPR quits Twitter after being falsely labeled as 'state-a... by vuln on Thursday April 13, 2023 @02:55PM (#35560346)
> To date, nothing of substance has been released from the laptop (which has supposedly been in the possession of the parties making the claims for at least 3 years) that validates any of the claims that have been made about the laptop, Hunter Biden, or Joe Biden.

The evidence is there for anyone to view it. Just because the media doesn’t seem interested doesn’t mean you shouldn’t be interested. Just because the media doesn’t report on it doesn’t mean it’s not an interesting story.

Here is evidence from the laptop. Sure we can poke holes and say there was no “chain of custody” but if CoC didn’t matter for an election ballots why does it matter here? Just take an unbiased view of the data. Disregard the source and form you own opinion. Without actually looking at the data anything said is an assumption.

Again I may not like the source but I don’t tend to shoot the messenger.

https://bidenlaptopreport.marcopolousa.org/

Re:NPR quits Twitter after being falsely labeled as 'state-a... by dpkonofa on Thursday April 13, 2023 @04:23PM (#35561574)
That is not evidence. What is the crime that has supposedly been committed and what is the evidence that supports that accusation?

Dumping the contents of a laptop and then shouting conspiracies isn't the same as making a claim and then providing evidence for it.

The media doesn't seem interested because there's nothing there. If there was, Fox News, Breitbart, and all the others would be all over it and pushing it daily.

Re:NPR quits Twitter after being falsely labeled as 'state-a... by vuln on Thursday April 13, 2023 @05:23PM (#35562240)
The media seemed to care when the narrative was 51 IC members says the laptop has “all the classic earmarks of a Russian information operation.” Hell every network ran with that lie and bullshit. Even twitter was involved and we can see the fallout within the twitter files. Some retracted. Some updated when the laptop and data was deemed “authentic”.
Re:NPR quits Twitter after being falsely labeled as 'state-a... by dpkonofa on Thursday April 13, 2023 @08:11PM (#35563921)
It wasn't a lie, though. The supposed smoking gun wasn't there. That's still a classic earmark of a Russian disinformation operation. You take something real and apply something false to it. The laptop may have been real but that doesn't mean that the supposed crimes and other conspiracies surrounding it were real.

That's how I know it's BS and you can't dispute it. The laptop and data can be authentic all day long. You still can't name a crime that it shows evidence of.

Re:NPR quits Twitter after being falsely labeled as 'state-a... by 0xdeadfa65 on Thursday April 13, 2023 @11:47PM (#35565300)
Nope it was definitely a lie. Corporate journalist along with their connections in our intelligence institutions colluded to tarnish and bury the story before an election before it had a chance to be assessed properly. I understand not believing the story to begin with and even believing that there was no incriminating content within the laptop (other than Hunter’s dysfunctional life), but there was definitely a campaign to bury the story so that it would not affect Joe Biden’s chances of being elected. The campaign was to call it Russian disinformation. Do you at least admit this much?
Re:NPR quits Twitter after being falsely labeled as 'state-a... by dpkonofa on Friday April 14, 2023 @02:06PM (#35572685)
No... not at all. If that was true, then why didn't FOX News, Breitbart, or any of the other right-wing media outlets show evidence of these supposed crimes? Why would FOX News bury the story to not affect Biden's chances of being elected? That doesn't even make any sense.
Re:NPR quits Twitter after being falsely labeled as 'state-a... by 0xdeadfa65 on Friday April 14, 2023 @03:53PM (#35573884)
Why do I care what some discredited right-wing outlet covers? They have no credibility to begin with; I am not going to begin questioning their motives. I'll leave that as an assignment for you if you're so interested
Re:NPR quits Twitter after being falsely labeled as 'state-a... by vuln on Friday April 14, 2023 @08:26AM (#35568737)
It is a lie.

Do you think those 51 IC member would have called it a Russian Disinformation Operation of the laptop was Don Jr? Well I guess that narrative wouldn’t work, since the Democrats have been pounding the drum that Trump was a Putin “puppet”.

I don’t even need to pontificate how the media would have handled it. They would have dug through all the “evidence” and try to find more “crimes”.

The fact is the IC community and Media colluded to bury the story. There was no interest other than the fringe to actually dig through it.

Hell the FBI has been sitting on the laptop for YEARS. It’s not hard to see how these institutions favor one party over another. Time and time again.

Re:NPR quits Twitter after being falsely labeled as 'state-a... by dpkonofa on Friday April 14, 2023 @02:05PM (#35572667)
Then why are you unable to answer the question. What is the crime you're accusing him of and where is the evidence from the laptop to support that?

It was not a lie. Unless you can prove that any of these claims are true, it wasn't a lie.

Re:NPR quits Twitter after being falsely labeled as 'state-a... by vuln on Friday April 14, 2023 @04:22PM (#35574250)
> It was not a lie. Unless you can prove that any of these claims are true, it wasn't a lie.

You can keep downvoting me. It’s okay.

Hunter admitted to his drug addiction. Hunter lied on the background check when purchasing a fire arm. The FBI attempted to strong arm the Gun Store Owner after Hallie took Hunters illegal firearm and dumped in a trash can at a supermarket.

There’s plenty of evidence of Hunter’s drug problems and evidence of illegal cocaine usage (unless cocaine and crack are legal and I missed it) Yet no formal charges.

I wonder why?

President Joe Biden conceded that his son Hunter lied on a government form when he purchased a handgun in October 2018—a federal felony punishable by up to 10 years in prison. The younger Biden was a crack cocaine user at the time, as recounted in his 2021 memoir Beautiful Things. Yet he answered no to this question on ATF Form 4473: "Are you an unlawful user of, or addicted to, marijuana or any depressant, stimulant, narcotic drug, or any other controlled substance?"

https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2022/10/12/joe-biden-ful...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2022/10/06/...