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Re:Mass Layoffs and Absentee Bosses Create a Morale Crisis a... by JohnFen on Wednesday April 12, 2023 @02:17PM (#35544277)
> the value of it is immediately apparent to almost anyone

I'm not so sure that's actually true outside of enthusiast circles, to be honest. The value of what the hype describes is apparent, but the hype is about a possible future, not what's actually here right now.

There are a couple of people in my workplace who are using ChatGPT as part of their development process. So far, the value of them doing so isn't obvious to the rest of us. Their work isn't better, nor are they working more productively (although they think they are).

> There's a reason ChatGPT ended up becoming a household name with literally no marketing whatsoever.

Most noncomputer people I know have barely heard of ChatGPT, and those that have only know of it by the hype that has spilled over into the news feeds. They certainly don't really know what it is, and don't think of it as being anything important.

Those that do understand it and think it's important mostly consider it a threat and are afraid of it.

Re:Mass Layoffs and Absentee Bosses Create a Morale Crisis a... by superhuzza on Wednesday April 12, 2023 @03:27PM (#35545396)
My 65 year old, tech illiterate mom messaged me the other day and asked if ChatGPT or Midjourney could be used to generate layouts for her new garden. I'm not kidding.
Re:Mass Layoffs and Absentee Bosses Create a Morale Crisis a... by rurp on Wednesday April 12, 2023 @04:45PM (#35546579)
I do think there is a pretty extreme overlap between generative AI early adoptors and people who are excited to spend half of their waking hours interacting with an AI assisstant. Interest in the raw tech fades pretty fast the further you get from very online groups.

That said, the new tech is powerful and likely to have a large impact, just not as much through new interfaces as the hype suggests.

Unfortunately I think the biggest use-case for generative AI in the medium term will be automating away middle class jobs. The cabability is looking very possible, and the profit motive is immense. Despite the fun creative uses and the strong PR, the development of this tech is extremely profit focused.

Everyday people will likely feel the effects of this tech, but it mostly won't come in the form of fun and games.

Re:Mass Layoffs and Absentee Bosses Create a Morale Crisis a... by JohnFen on Wednesday April 12, 2023 @06:39PM (#35548032)
Yes. This is why I'm of the opinion that if the enthusiasts are correct about where this tech is going, it is going to be a disaster.

You can't eliminate the ability of most people to earn a meaningful living and expect anything but a dystopian nightmare.

This is also why I'm hoping the enthusiasts are completely wrong.

Re:Mass Layoffs and Absentee Bosses Create a Morale Crisis a... by rurp on Wednesday April 12, 2023 @11:02PM (#35550371)
I'm also terrified that the AI optimists are right. I feel like the closest analogy to the "upside" case is the advent of offshoring. Millions of middle class jobs will be wiped out in exchange for higher corporate profits and cheaper socks. Except in the AI case there won't be millions of people in other countries lifted out of poverty; all these profits will flow to the wealthy.
Re:Mass Layoffs and Absentee Bosses Create a Morale Crisis a... by int_19h on Wednesday April 12, 2023 @06:08PM (#35547708)
Of course the non-techies know it from the hype in the news; that's the usual pipeline. And of course they don't know "what it really is", because that requires specialized knowledge. But whether they "think of it as being anything important" is more a function of your circles; in mine, people are mostly terrified of what it will do to jobs and how it'll be used for surveillance.
Re:Mass Layoffs and Absentee Bosses Create a Morale Crisis a... by JohnFen on Wednesday April 12, 2023 @06:35PM (#35547992)
> in mine, people are mostly terrified of what it will do to jobs and how it'll be used for surveillance.

Mine as well, as I mentioned.

Re:Mass Layoffs and Absentee Bosses Create a Morale Crisis a... by int_19h on Wednesday April 12, 2023 @06:43PM (#35548076)
You said that about "those that do understand it", which to me implies at least some degree of technical understanding. I'm talking about casual users with no background whatsoever, who have just been exposed to ChatGPT or (mostly) Bing AI.
Re:Mass Layoffs and Absentee Bosses Create a Morale Crisis a... by JohnFen on Wednesday April 12, 2023 @07:13PM (#35548376)
Ah, you're right. I need to get better at saying what I'm thinking.