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Re:Bookshop.org Survives–and Thrives–In Amazon’s World by mg on Wednesday April 12, 2023 @03:32AM (#35536168)
Hey, I am currently putting together a list of bookstores here:

https://www.gnod.com/search/books

Adding Bookshop.org now.

If anybody here is buying online from a store that is not on the list, let me know. (With a short description of what makes it special.)

Re:Bookshop.org Survives–and Thrives–In Amazon’s World by shrimp-chimp on Wednesday April 12, 2023 @04:08AM (#35536396)
> I have not yet completely understood what made Book Depository special. Was it only the free international shipping? Or was there more to it?

My understanding is that their business model was to offer a really wide selection of titles, instead of the "top 10" type offering Amazon is mostly about. I think that's a significant part of it.

Re:Bookshop.org Survives–and Thrives–In Amazon’s World by mg on Wednesday April 12, 2023 @04:31AM (#35536593)
Is Amazon really offering a narrower selection of titles than other stores? What would be an example of a title Amazon does not have?
Re:Bookshop.org Survives–and Thrives–In Amazon’s World by shrimp-chimp on Wednesday April 12, 2023 @09:08PM (#35549500)
I apologize if it came across as I made the claim that they really do; I was making an attempt at summarizing my understanding of how the business model for bookdepository might carry some value adding proposition to customers that extended beyond "just" free international shipping. That understanding comes entirely from this quote from a Guardian article about Book Depository's demise:

> The Gloucester-based bookseller was founded in 2004 by Stuart Felton and Andrew Crawford, a former Amazon employee, with the mantra of “selling ‘less of more’ rather than ‘more of less’”. It aimed to sell 6m titles covering a wide variety of genres and topics, as opposed to focusing solely on bestsellers. [0]

Seeing as Book Depository later became a subsidiary of Amazon, it's fair to question whether that model held true. I don't have enough insight into Amazon's catalogue to say either way. Also, I can't remember to which degree Amazon relied on "other sellers" back in 2004 or if that came later ("other sellers" being a way to offer a wider selection than what one carries oneself in retail).

To answer your question for an example of a title Amazon doesn't have; I recently found myself recently looking for "Hur svårt kan det va'" by Eva Bodfäldt, which may admittedly be a contrived example, although Amazon does carry another title in Swedish by the same author [1] (though used and from a third party). As it happens, Book Depository has the title... alas, it's not available for delivery anymore.

[0] - https://www.theguardian.com/books/2023/apr/04/amazon-to-clos... [1] - https://a.co/d/bIEwL9W [2] - https://www.bookdepository.com/Hur-svårt-kan-det-va-en-liten...

Re:Bookshop.org Survives–and Thrives–In Amazon’s World by timc3 on Wednesday April 12, 2023 @04:21AM (#35536524)
I have bought from Foyles, Waterstones and Blackwells - all in the UK. What makes them special, well they are not Amazon. And Foyles used to be amazing, I haven't been for many years but it used to be the largest bookshop in the world in shelf length.
Re:Bookshop.org Survives–and Thrives–In Amazon’s World by mg on Wednesday April 12, 2023 @04:30AM (#35536583)
Thanks! I added Foyles.

I think there needs to be more info than just "They are not Amazon". Otherwise all shops in the list would be the same. Except Amazon :)

Which of the 3 you mentioned would you buy from for your next book order?

Re:Bookshop.org Survives–and Thrives–In Amazon’s World by iNerdier on Wednesday April 12, 2023 @04:58AM (#35536769)
Foyles has been owned by Waterstones since 2018 but still keeps its separate branding. Not that you shouldn’t shop there but it’s technically the same thing.
Re:Bookshop.org Survives–and Thrives–In Amazon’s World by camone on Wednesday April 12, 2023 @04:41AM (#35536659)
https://www.wob.com

World of Books is a second-hand book retailer with free shipping in the UK. They don't have every possible book in stock, but you can usually find what you need there.

I buy pretty much every book from them now.

Re:Bookshop.org Survives–and Thrives–In Amazon’s World by mg on Wednesday April 12, 2023 @10:42AM (#35540551)
Ok, added them.
Re:Bookshop.org Survives–and Thrives–In Amazon’s World by arh68 on Wednesday April 12, 2023 @06:14AM (#35537390)
I just bought some books from Powell's. It's kind of a landmark in Portland.

https://www.powells.com/

Re:Bookshop.org Survives–and Thrives–In Amazon’s World by insane_dreamer on Wednesday April 12, 2023 @08:42AM (#35538719)
Love going to Powells - great weekend activity with the kids (still need to find time to read the books I buy though; that’s the real bottleneck)
Re:Bookshop.org Survives–and Thrives–In Amazon’s World by lancesells on Wednesday April 12, 2023 @08:37AM (#35538671)
Re:Bookshop.org Survives–and Thrives–In Amazon’s World by is_true on Wednesday April 12, 2023 @09:03AM (#35538979)
What made BD special was that they allowed people all over the world to buy books not available on their country and/or at a fair price
Re:Bookshop.org Survives–and Thrives–In Amazon’s World by CompleteWalker on Wednesday April 12, 2023 @09:19AM (#35539177)
https://www.vialibri.net/

Search aggregator of a rare book websites. Useful for identifying reputable dealers and beginning a book search.

Re:Bookshop.org Survives–and Thrives–In Amazon’s World by burkaman on Wednesday April 12, 2023 @09:29AM (#35539335)
https://libro.fm/ is an audiobook store with a similar model to Bookshop.org, they partner with local bookstores and share some profits.
Re:Bookshop.org Survives–and Thrives–In Amazon’s World by mg on Wednesday April 12, 2023 @09:37AM (#35539428)
Interesting. I am looking around their page, but can't find a description on how it works. They say nothing about a CD or something, so it seems you can listen to the audiobooks on their site? How do the local bookstores come into play then?
Re:Bookshop.org Survives–and Thrives–In Amazon’s World by burkaman on Wednesday April 12, 2023 @10:07AM (#35539903)
Yeah it's just digital, they have an app or you can download files directly. https://libro.fm/howitworks

You select a local bookstore you want to support, they can curate collections of books and they get some portion of what you spend.

Re:Bookshop.org Survives–and Thrives–In Amazon’s World by mg on Wednesday April 12, 2023 @10:21AM (#35540151)
Ok, I added them.

I love audio books. I wish there was a store that sells them for download without DRM. Just like as if you bought the CD, but without the CD.

Re:Bookshop.org Survives–and Thrives–In Amazon’s World by burkaman on Wednesday April 12, 2023 @10:24AM (#35540216)
Libro is DRM-free, you can download a zip file of MP3s for any book you buy. https://blog.libro.fm/cage-free-audiobooks/
Re:Bookshop.org Survives–and Thrives–In Amazon’s World by mg on Wednesday April 12, 2023 @10:44AM (#35540576)
Wow, that's cool!
Re:Bookshop.org Survives–and Thrives–In Amazon’s World by open-source-ux on Wednesday April 12, 2023 @11:30AM (#35541427)
Wordery and BooksPlease are the only global free delivery I know of.

awesomebooks is free delivery for UK, but their international delivery is reasonable at £2.99 (+ £1.00 to £4.00 additional items: https://www.awesomebooks.com/help/shipping)

Re:Bookshop.org Survives–and Thrives–In Amazon’s World by megmogandog on Wednesday April 12, 2023 @12:12PM (#35542071)
I've been using biblio.com for the last year or so. I don't really know how it works, but lots and lots of independent bookstores sell books through it.
Re:Bookshop.org Survives–and Thrives–In Amazon’s World by mg on Wednesday April 12, 2023 @01:35PM (#35543518)
Nice, added. I was able to find some books here that were not listed on any of the other sites.

I am surprised that there still is variety. Is there a reason an independent bookstore lists their books on one marketplace but not on another?

Re:Bookshop.org Survives–and Thrives–In Amazon’s World by megmogandog on Wednesday April 12, 2023 @03:12PM (#35545137)
I have no idea, the whole thing's pretty opaque. You'd think they'd all want to be on all the 'aggregator' sites.

Sometimes I've been able to get a better deal going directly to the site of the bookseller. Biblio will have a lower price but higher shipping than on the seller's site. Not always though