Re:Ask HN: Is the job market brutal? or is it just me?
by throwaway5959 on Tuesday April 11, 2023 @03:38PM
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I’m a principal software engineer. If it takes me more than a month to get up to speed with an organization (I usually work with small-mid sized companies), I consider that a failure. Six months to first contribution is insane.
Re:Ask HN: Is the job market brutal? or is it just me?
by Volundr on Tuesday April 11, 2023 @04:05PM
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First contribution is not the same as up-to-speed. I'll also note that a manager often needs a broader view of the company than an engineer, though at principal level I'd expect the gap to be less (but it isn't always).
Re:Ask HN: Is the job market brutal? or is it just me?
by ardit33 on Tuesday April 11, 2023 @04:57PM
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First Contribution and Up to full speed ramp up are completely different things.
Expectations at FAANGS is that it might take a month or two for the contribution to start (one week, if you count bootcamp tasks at Meta), but it takes about 6+ months to full ramp up at the Senior+ level.
At small startups, it is very different.
Re:Ask HN: Is the job market brutal? or is it just me?
by throwaway5959 on Tuesday April 11, 2023 @09:33PM
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Yup, everyone should work in places they feel comfortable. I don’t want to work in an environment where it takes six months to ramp up.
Re:Ask HN: Is the job market brutal? or is it just me?
by freeplay on Tuesday April 11, 2023 @05:19PM
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Regardless of how good you are, you're ramp up time is very dependent on the place.
If you're walking into a place with very little in the way of documentation and process, it could take a while to learn enough to be effective (ex: 50 different microservices and 5 different stacks, nuanced environments, etc.)
On the other hand, if everything is very standardized and well documented, you can jump right in.
If it takes 6+ months just to get "up to speed", are you really having much impact when you leave 6 months later?