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Re:Ask HN: Is the job market brutal? or is it just me? by throwaway5959 on Tuesday April 11, 2023 @02:44PM (#35529454)
> had been at his last 3 jobs for roughly over a year each

And yet the manager would be your boss. Not sure why you think how long someone has been in a role is somehow a worthwhile signal.

Re:Ask HN: Is the job market brutal? or is it just me? by __float on Tuesday April 11, 2023 @02:49PM (#35529544)
As you get more senior, it takes time to understand your sibling teams, the business itself, etc.

If it takes 6+ months just to get "up to speed", are you really having much impact when you leave 6 months later?

Re:Ask HN: Is the job market brutal? or is it just me? by throwaway5959 on Tuesday April 11, 2023 @03:38PM (#35530345)
I’m a principal software engineer. If it takes me more than a month to get up to speed with an organization (I usually work with small-mid sized companies), I consider that a failure. Six months to first contribution is insane.
Re:Ask HN: Is the job market brutal? or is it just me? by Volundr on Tuesday April 11, 2023 @04:05PM (#35530743)
First contribution is not the same as up-to-speed. I'll also note that a manager often needs a broader view of the company than an engineer, though at principal level I'd expect the gap to be less (but it isn't always).
Re:Ask HN: Is the job market brutal? or is it just me? by ardit33 on Tuesday April 11, 2023 @04:57PM (#35531441)
First Contribution and Up to full speed ramp up are completely different things.

Expectations at FAANGS is that it might take a month or two for the contribution to start (one week, if you count bootcamp tasks at Meta), but it takes about 6+ months to full ramp up at the Senior+ level.

At small startups, it is very different.

Re:Ask HN: Is the job market brutal? or is it just me? by throwaway5959 on Tuesday April 11, 2023 @09:33PM (#35533973)
Yup, everyone should work in places they feel comfortable. I don’t want to work in an environment where it takes six months to ramp up.
Re:Ask HN: Is the job market brutal? or is it just me? by freeplay on Tuesday April 11, 2023 @05:19PM (#35531725)
Regardless of how good you are, you're ramp up time is very dependent on the place.

If you're walking into a place with very little in the way of documentation and process, it could take a while to learn enough to be effective (ex: 50 different microservices and 5 different stacks, nuanced environments, etc.)

On the other hand, if everything is very standardized and well documented, you can jump right in.