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Re:American IQ Scores Have Rapidly Dropped, Proving the 'Rev... by emodendroket on Monday April 10, 2023 @07:16PM (#35518590)
Have you, or is this a very uncharitable gloss on what they actually were saying?
Re:American IQ Scores Have Rapidly Dropped, Proving the 'Rev... by WalterBright on Monday April 10, 2023 @07:24PM (#35518647)
Yes, many times, from many of them. Google "stem majors lack critical thinking skills". To drive the point home, google will autocomplete it for you.
Re:American IQ Scores Have Rapidly Dropped, Proving the 'Rev... by tonyarkles on Monday April 10, 2023 @08:04PM (#35518978)
This is where The Algorithms have a fun hidden place in our daily lives. I tried a number of variations of that phrase and couldn't get Google to autocomplete it for me without getting to "stem majors lack crit". Before that it was suggesting math/calculus and chemistry skills without any mention of critical thinking.
Re:American IQ Scores Have Rapidly Dropped, Proving the 'Rev... by emodendroket on Monday April 10, 2023 @08:09PM (#35519014)
Google will autocomplete it for me but then pretty much all the results I see are STEM proponents refuting this supposedly common criticism.
Re:American IQ Scores Have Rapidly Dropped, Proving the 'Rev... by stametseater on Monday April 10, 2023 @10:42PM (#35520105)
Completions for "stem majors lack cr": crossword, crossword clue, critical thinking skills, creative

Completions for "humanity majors lack cr": crossword, crossword clue

No humanity majors refuting the claim that they lack critical thinking skills, maybe because that is never claimed in the first place?

Re:American IQ Scores Have Rapidly Dropped, Proving the 'Rev... by emodendroket on Monday April 10, 2023 @11:59PM (#35520644)
A bit of a logical leap in my mind to infer from that that there a bunch of of people saying STEM majors "lack critical thinking skills."
Re:American IQ Scores Have Rapidly Dropped, Proving the 'Rev... by Natsu on Tuesday April 11, 2023 @02:35AM (#35521600)
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Re:American IQ Scores Have Rapidly Dropped, Proving the 'Rev... by Apocryphon on Tuesday April 11, 2023 @12:23PM (#35527396)
Straw men?
Re:American IQ Scores Have Rapidly Dropped, Proving the 'Rev... by emodendroket on Tuesday April 11, 2023 @01:57PM (#35528720)
Perhaps they read a defense of liberal arts majors as having certain benefits including teaching critical thinking skills and decided to take this as an affront? I don’t know. Lots of groups have strange persecution complexes.
Re:American IQ Scores Have Rapidly Dropped, Proving the 'Rev... by klyrs on Monday April 10, 2023 @09:28PM (#35519571)
> To drive the point home, google will autocomplete it for you.

I'm not sure if the irony here was intended or not. But it is poignant.

Re:American IQ Scores Have Rapidly Dropped, Proving the 'Rev... by pxc on Tuesday April 11, 2023 @10:38AM (#35525794)
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Re:American IQ Scores Have Rapidly Dropped, Proving the 'Rev... by int_19h on Tuesday April 11, 2023 @02:00PM (#35528752)
It's a good reminder, but in this context you really ought to mention that STEM is the least affected by the replication crisis, while "softer" fields like sociology and psychology are the most affected.
Re:American IQ Scores Have Rapidly Dropped, Proving the 'Rev... by pxc on Tuesday April 11, 2023 @02:47PM (#35529500)
That's true. Alarmingly, medicine is pretty badly affected, though! Basic science seems to do better.

And as computer people, our house is not clean either, despite the formal character of computer science. Empirical results in computer science, demos and benchmarking done in the field, and more, also matter and are often non-reproducible just a few years after publication— if source code is provided with the paper at all, which it often has not been.

Science is amazing, both for its processes and achievements. But there's lots of important work being done and yet-to-be-done on science itself. Critical thinking is essential to that work, and it goes beyond formal reasoning or puzzle-solving in the small.