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Re:The LLama Effect: Leak Sparked a Series of Open Source Al... by hutzlibu on Sunday April 09, 2023 @06:25PM (#35507075)
I would suspect, that this is one of the manual fine tuned questions.

Meaning in before versions people used this question to show flaws and now this specific flaw is fixed.

Otherwise it would be indeed reasoning in my understanding.

Re:The LLama Effect: Leak Sparked a Series of Open Source Al... by steveBK123 on Sunday April 09, 2023 @06:31PM (#35507113)
The evolution of answers from version to version makes it clear there are insane amounts of manual fine tunings happening. I think this is largely overlooked by the "its learning" crowd.
Re:The LLama Effect: Leak Sparked a Series of Open Source Al... by tel on Sunday April 09, 2023 @06:37PM (#35507160)
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Re:The LLama Effect: Leak Sparked a Series of Open Source Al... by TeMPOraL on Sunday April 09, 2023 @07:34PM (#35507531)
Since when training and fine-tuning isn't learning? Individual sessions of LLMs are not learning, but models as products surely are - the feedback loop is just iterated manually.
Re:The LLama Effect: Leak Sparked a Series of Open Source Al... by steveBK123 on Sunday April 09, 2023 @09:28PM (#35508230)
Is the LLM learning, or are the humans involved in every stop of every iteration doing the learning?

To me the LLM loophole/"hack" closings just feel like a human vs human cat&mouse game with some Chat UI in the middle.

Re:The LLama Effect: Leak Sparked a Series of Open Source Al... by pmoriarty on Monday April 10, 2023 @12:07PM (#35513919)
Yes, it is a collaborative endeavor, and the whole could be seen as a man-machine superorganism, or, more profoundly our own sense of separateness is illusory as we and the entire universe are one.
Re:The LLama Effect: Leak Sparked a Series of Open Source Al... by jonplackett on Sunday April 09, 2023 @07:52PM (#35507620)
I think this is a great question we should all think about for ourselves in advance - what does it have to do to convince you it’s actually intelligent.

Because once it does that thing without you having expressly decided that is the goal, it’s very tempting to just move the goal a liiiitle bit further away

Re:The LLama Effect: Leak Sparked a Series of Open Source Al... by steveBK123 on Sunday April 09, 2023 @09:30PM (#35508239)
That the LLMs are actually evolving before my eyes within & across sessions, without human-in-the-loop "hand tuning" iterations (sounds like injections of glorified if statements to this guy) .
Re:The LLama Effect: Leak Sparked a Series of Open Source Al... by tel on Monday April 10, 2023 @05:34PM (#35517680)
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Re:The LLama Effect: Leak Sparked a Series of Open Source Al... by moritzwarhier on Sunday April 09, 2023 @06:51PM (#35507259)
They have infinite amounts of training data, and probably lots of interested users who also like to push the limits of what the model is capable of and provide all kinds of test cases and RLHF base data.

They have millions of people training the AI for free basicallly, and they have engineers who pick and rate pieces of training data and use it together with other sources and manual training.

Re:The LLama Effect: Leak Sparked a Series of Open Source Al... by wafer_thin on Sunday April 09, 2023 @07:44PM (#35507586)
Try a multidimensional problem which requires prioritizing. Chances are it will be passed successfully. I asked chatGpt to solve a puzzle where I'm in room with a crackling fire, a wilted plant and a sandwich. My stomach is rumbling, amd i can see a watering can and an ember on the floor. What should i do? ChatGpt had no problem prioritizing what should be done - and then provided a lecture on fire safety, food safety, and the dangers of overwatering plants. A final comment said i should enjoy the peaceful atmosphere in the room, which was a bonus suggestion hinting that the problem was far too easy.