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Re:I wish GPT4 had never happened by kazinator on Sunday April 09, 2023 @06:03AM (#35501290)
1. Salary is your company's money that becomes your money.

2. Capital tax is tax on your company's money.

3. Income tax is tax on your money.

With either tax, the economic system that consists of you and your employer is being robbed.

Speaking of which, if someone takes your groceries and runs, just before you have paid for them, that is shoplifting. If it's just after you paid, it's robbery. You might think you're better off with the former, but shoplifting raises prices; some of it is shifted onto you, so that it is effectively robbery.

Re:I wish GPT4 had never happened by tarsinge on Sunday April 09, 2023 @08:29AM (#35502102)
The situation is trickle down from laissez-faire is definitely proven wrong just by the situation we are in and is the starting point of the discussion. Tax is just a tool to correct the failure of the system: since the last few decades to correctly distribute productivity gains from workers (and the point above is with the promises of LLM it’s crucial we address that situation). Robbery or not, that tool used to work, but of course we can discuss alternatives.
Re:I wish GPT4 had never happened by camgunz on Sunday April 09, 2023 @03:38PM (#35505728)
1. Companies only have money because of the work I and others do.

2. It doesn't follow that when companies have more money their workers get more. Evidence is: record profits concomitant with layoffs, corporate profits vs wages, etc etc.

3. Taxes fund a government that answers to me. Capital powers corporations that not only don't answer to me but likely want to exploit me.

Re:I wish GPT4 had never happened by kazinator on Sunday April 09, 2023 @04:47PM (#35506331)
The government does not answer to you; it answers to corporations and the rich.

That's why taxes are instigated where they are.

Re:I wish GPT4 had never happened by camgunz on Monday April 10, 2023 @04:56AM (#35510419)
If what you were saying were true, there would be no corporate tax, and probably no worker protections, no social safety net, no building safety standards, no regulatory apparatus, no antitrust, etc etc.

I like that stuff, and I'm pretty confident corporations wouldn't have done it themselves without a democratic government forcing them to.

There's a meaningful difference between democratic governments and corporations, and governments don't have to be perfect for this to be true.

Re:I wish GPT4 had never happened by imtringued on Monday April 10, 2023 @03:34AM (#35510011)
>With either tax, the economic system that consists of you and your employer is being robbed

Except differences in tax rates will have significant impact on what type of income people want to earn. If personal income is taxed lower than capital, then people will want to increase their income through work.

If personal income is taxed higher than capital, people are incentivized to build more machines than the economy needs and this will put people out of work.