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Re:I wish GPT4 had never happened by kelseyfrog on Saturday April 08, 2023 @12:03PM (#35494603)
> Until the day humanity discovers how to obtain a post-scarcity society, all income must directly be linked to labour.

What are you talking about? Our economic system's very name describes who gets income without they themselves doing labor. The entire point of capitalism is that the capital-owning class gets to profit from the labor of others.

So no, we don't have all income linked to labor. The income of capitalists sure as heck isn't.

Re:I wish GPT4 had never happened by chii on Saturday April 08, 2023 @11:11PM (#35499759)
> The income of capitalists sure as heck isn't.

but where did the capitalists first got their capital? Why with labour of course! Their own labour, or their family's, or their grand-parent, etc.

Re:I wish GPT4 had never happened by kelseyfrog on Sunday April 09, 2023 @12:28AM (#35500055)
I don't think that has any bearing on the response.
Re:I wish GPT4 had never happened by chii on Monday April 10, 2023 @12:53AM (#35509297)
the capital that a capitalist spends is just unconsumed labour. It is directly related to the production of output (and thus income), just like labour is, because it _is_ another form of labour - let's call it solidified labour.

a system that doesn't directly link labour with income is basically describing welfare (a basic income for example). The income given to someone receiving this welfare did not produce any output that counterbalances the resources they received - aka, they are a net consumer. Without post-scarcity, there cannot be many net consumers, for what they consume, must be produced somehow by another (who is not a net consumer).

Re:I wish GPT4 had never happened by kelseyfrog on Monday April 10, 2023 @02:12PM (#35515382)
That is a much better argument for why profit is like welfare than how profit is like wages.