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Re:Ex-S.F. fire commissioner with fractured skull after meta... by trentnix on Friday April 07, 2023 @10:06PM (#35489730)
You say we have “kicked this can down the road for decades” as if billions and billions haven’t been poured into social services and charities and social justice initiatives of various types. I’ve no idea if you’re oblivious or disingenuous, but the way you have characterized the problem is not congruent with the reality I’ve witnessed over those same decades.
Re:Ex-S.F. fire commissioner with fractured skull after meta... by pas on Friday April 07, 2023 @10:32PM (#35489912)
This idea that social services (community centers, at-risk youth outreach programs, etc) can do the work instead of police is tempting, but it's very unlikely.

Yes, that doesn't mean they are unnecessary. (Quite the opposite, as police also does too much. And similarly the prison system is also so laughably underfunded compared to its size that it almost makes things worse.)

But. And that's the real issue that many people just don't want to see, it's still chronically underfunded (and mismanaged, but getting better management is not going to be cheap).

Re:Ex-S.F. fire commissioner with fractured skull after meta... by bastawhiz on Friday April 07, 2023 @10:31PM (#35489907)
Of those billions, have they been spent wisely? Spending feel-good dollars that are politically appealing and spending those same billions on bitter medicine (read: shelters that nobody wants to build, making more public toilets, etc.) that will not get you reelected are two very different things. Anyone can piss away a few billion and give themselves a gold star and a press conference for doing it.
Re:Ex-S.F. fire commissioner with fractured skull after meta... by s1artibartfast on Friday April 07, 2023 @10:22PM (#35489834)
I think the idea is that those are expensive but ineffectual feel good measures that constitute kicking the can.
Re:Ex-S.F. fire commissioner with fractured skull after meta... by IncRnd on Saturday April 08, 2023 @02:19PM (#35496091)
The problems have done nothing but grow. Yes, there have been services. No, there haven't been solutions. That is kicking the can down the road, despite how well-meaing people may be.